In the latest round of the dispute between Elon Musk and Brazil’s top court, a senior judge has accused X of a “willful, illegal and persistent” effort to circumvent a court-ordered block – and imposed a fine of R$5m ($921,676) for each day the social network remains online.
The social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which has been banned by court order since 30 August, on Wednesday became accessible to many users in Brazil after an update that used cloud services offered by third parties, such as Cloudflare, Fastly and Edgeuno.
This allowed some Brazilian users to access X without the need for a VPN – which is also prohibited in the country.
Late on Wednesday, X described its reappearance in Brazil as an “inadvertent and temporary service restoration to Brazilian users”.
But the influential supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes – who ordered the original ban as part of an attempt to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices – on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt “to circumvent the court’s blocking order”.
I hope Musk listens to this. But on the off chance he doesn’t I also hope the fines start doubling each and every day.
Issue a warrant for musk’s arrest and request interpol to pick him up. A few days in a Brazilian prison waiting for his court appearance should make him get the point.
and request interpol to pick him up.
Criminal activity should be reported to your local or national police. INTERPOL does not carry out investigations or arrest people; this is the responsibility of national police.
https://www.interpol.int/Contacts/Contact-INTERPOL
This is a bad idea. If breaking the law of any country can result in extradition to that country then people are going to be getting extradited for things like disrespecting the communist party.
Not really applicable here, since making Xitter accessible in Brazil is breaking Brazilian law in Brazil. You very much will get arrested for disrespecting the CCP in China.
No, that is why countries have extradition treaties, extradition hearings and/or sign up to other treaties. To make sure law is respected across borders but not simply abused by bad actors.
This also goes for bad actor sicophants that repeatedly and knowingly break a Brazilian law they don’t agree with and then thumb their nose at their legal system.
And even without these treaties it’s known to happen. Examples: The Netherlands does not have an extradition treaty with Dubai, but when the most wanted man of the Netherlands was verified to be there, the Dubai police arrested him, drove him to the airport and chucked him into a Dutch government plane waiting at the airport. That’s the downside of hiding in a country that does not care about individual rights… of their chief decides you should be “not here” they kick you out… no due process, nothing. And just recently the kid of the same guy… also very wanted was found and brought to the Netherlands in the same fashion.
Would you support Brazil if their government ordered a complete internet ban?
Brazil is not banning the Internet.
Brazil is revoking the permission of a company to do business in Brazil because it refuses to follow Brazilian law and is openly defying a court order.
God, you techno-feudalists are fucking weird.
You are absolutely right. Brazil is not banning the internet. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Also, if the only way you can feel like you are “winning” a discussion is by changing what other people say, then you simply are not winning at all. You are writing fan fiction about yourself to try to feel clever. It backfired.
Musk was all to happy to comply with Turkey and India to remove accounts critical of their right wing governments. His justification at the time? He has to comply with the laws of the country twitter operates in.
So odd that it he opts not do the above when its far right accounts attacking the left wing government of Brazil.
It’s almost like Musk isn’t doing this for free speech reasons at all and is just selectively censoring people.
Hypothetical. Look it up. It is commonly used in discussions. Don’t let new words scare you.
Would you support Qo’noS if their government ordered a complete leola root ban?
See? I can make stuff up too!
I mean, that’s a literal statement of fact.
This guy is disgusting
So if a company is required to have a legal representative in a country, so the government has someone to talk to instead of getting a poop emoji email. And the company says… nah, we’re good… this is fine?
And if posts on a social media, active in a country, break the laws of a country, that’s fine too?
Because if someone would start putting out tweets for selling suicide powder in the US, or a school shooting DIY kit… that would be taken down too.
Probably making the tweets unavailable in Brazil/for Brazilian users would have been enough… but Mr … “I’m agitating for someone to try and assassinate harris” thinks it should be allowed.
Courts are there for a reason. If they (Twitter) do not want to follow Brazilian law, they should just withdraw from the Brazilian market. But they are already changing course.
Maybe they can get that AI generated robot lady with the hand gestures to make Another video.
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