Read Marx, everyone, especially people that don’t think they need to.
I would like to add David Graeber to that, and Kropotkin even. I don’t mean to start a snowball effect that turns this into a huge list, but I feel like not enough people (especially the average person) know about them; especially Graeber who is a lot more modern.
yeah…23 pages from 1848 surely have all the right answers for the problems of a globalized economy and a society which is so fed up that it is creating its own problems.
😂 The three volumes of Capital alone are about 2,000 pages, then there are Marx’s other works, and Engel’s works, and Lenin’s works, and onward. Hundreds of thousands of pages.
Das Kapital is the most cited book in the social sciences published before 1950
Marx is one of the most quoted thinkers ever, and this comes even from the newspapers which are hostile to him lol.
23 pages? What are you referring to? Either way, what Marx analyzed is still relevant, even in his day overproduction led to crisis. Lenin took his analysis further once Monopoly Capitalism became the standard, but the same principles apply.
Marx manifest is 23 pages long. And i wouldn’t take Lenin as someone to refer to…his “red terror” says enough. Of course one could say that doesn’t mean he was wrong about other things, yeah but where does that leave us?
He’s not talking about the communist manifesto, he’s talking about Das Kapital. If you don’t care to read it there are YouTube summaries such as this one . If you want to get straight into the meat of the subject you can start from chapter 4 and if you think it’s all stupid take the 5-6 minutes to listen to chapter 7 so you’d at least know where socialists are coming from when they say capitalists are stealing your money.
Communism A system of government where the country’s wealth is concentrated into a small, ruling class of billionaires, who use the news media they own to keep the lower classes fighting with each other while they . . . the rich . . . run off with all the farking money.
Oh wait. that’s capitalism. I don’t know how I got those two systems confused.
Oh, the sharpening of that French tech for just such occasions.
Long-windedness is the soul of wit.
I disagree, I think socialism can and will beat capitalism eventually.
This meme isn’t saying Socialism will not prevail. Rather, it’s saying that even though Socialists can’t individually beat Capitalism right now, as Capitalism decays Socialists increase in number and Capitalists weaken in strength, making Socialist victory more probable over time.
Beat or being able to flourish once the Goth Galadriel is gone?
Because historically the revolutionary forces (the one toppling the bourgeoisie) are extremely shitty governors (just continuing mass murdering & plundering which kinda makes sense if you think how & what they have been through).
In very few historical instances of regime changes all the previous actors as well as anyone involved in the revolution were prohibited in forming the new structure. This helps a lot to actually change the system.
You wouldn’t want to move from a czar to a dictator, thats long term the same bullshit, only makes things better in short term.
Same with any oligarchy, if it exists and has power than it matters little what kind of regime it technically is.
Edit: I might have chosen poor words but I didn’t mean that the ideologies behind revolutions make for poor government, just literally the force of a few 100 or 1000 people directly involved in the forceful part of the revolution. The fighty-fighty people.
Because historically the revolutionary forces (the one toppling the bourgeoisie) are extremely shitty governors (just continuing mass murdering & plundering which kinda makes sense if you think how & what they have been through).
Historically this is false 👍
No, I meant the immediate people involved in the revolution, those often don’t fair well & don’t last long (eg people in a party, not necessarily main headline names). Iirc Russia changed almost everyone in charge in the 20s & 30s to a more stable structure afterwards.
In such system changes the country often goes through another (lesser) system revolution a few years after the first one (when the focus is to just keep shit running) & it’s better that people involved change at that point too.
Like what happened with Robespierre (~Jacobins), the early two or three years under Lenin, and I think Slovakia or Poland when they transitionv away from communism they forbid running for office to anyone that held any official power under the previous regime (the same people that formally facilitated the end of communism since it as that kind of revolution).
What you showed is what happened after after that, so the point of revolution. And I couldn’t agree more with that. My point was not in that. It’s that you need admins and regular politicians to run any system smoothly, and the few 1000s of people revolutioning arent usually the best at tirelessly debating a monetary policy or what road laws to use.
(Oh, the “plundering” part - yes, perhaps the wrong word to use, I meant that fairly literally, irl taking things, not doing it in an organised legal manner which is how “the 1% gets to exist” – and you can se that clearly in the Russia chart too, 90s capitalism was the framework for that, so “paper” not raiding rich houses)
