This bot is spreading misinformation.
This bot is spreading rightwing propaganda.
This bot is spamming every post.
This bot is consistently downvoted.
This bot degrades the user experience.
Please ban it.
Just block it if you don’t like it?
Why did you comment? If you followed your own logic then you would have just blocked me instead.
To be serious, I think it’s much better for the community if we do not allow misinformation bots to spam every post.
Because this is the first thing I think I’ve seen you post and blocking everything you disagree with seems sort of stupid?
I think the bot has issues, but I hardly agree that it’s posting misinformation. Incomplete? Imperfect? You bet. But that’s not “misinformation” in any commonly understood meaning. I think the intent of providing additional context on information sources is laudable.
As someone with such a distaste for misinformation, how would you suggest fixing it? That’s a much more useful discussion than “BAN THE THING I PERSONALLY AND SUBJECTIVELY THINK IS BAD!!!” You obviously think misinformation is a problem, so why not suggest a solution?
Currently the bot’s media ratings come from just some guy, who is unaccountable and has an obvious rightwing bias.
If I were to suggest a fix, as you so rudely demanded, I would suggest making the ratings instead come from an open sourced and crowdsourced system. A system where everyone could give their inputs and have transparency, similar to an upvote/downvote system.
Such a system would take many hours to design and maintain, it is not something I personally am willing to contribute, nor would I ask it of any volunteers. This is why I believe the cleanest, easiest, and best solution is to simply ban the bot.
mbfc has been independently shown to be accurate.
what are you referring to?
Something so universally destructive to understanding is not an opt-out feature of any competent system.
“universally destructive to understanding”
So what you’re saying is that no one derives any use from the bot? Wow, with that kind of omniscience, I’d expect we could just ask you to judge every news source. Win-win for everyone I suppose if you’re up for it.
Now “generally destructive” would probably be better wording for us mere mortals, but stills seems to be a wildly generalized statement. Or maybe “inadequately precise” would be more realistic, but then that really takes the wind out of the sails to ban it, doesn’t?
evidence?
The bot is only “spreading misinformation” to people who are too stupid to realise that “left” and “right” mean politically different things in different countries
Mostly the yanks
What this bot does is analyze US media companies that you Euros would consider “centre right” and mislabels them instead as left.
This is done to shift what we Yanks call “the Overton window” to the right.
The Overton window has been shifting right for decades, which is why “left” and “right” have such a different meaning over here across the pond.
Right wing in the US is conservative, Left is progressive. It’s backwards compared to the UK.
Hi,
please block the bot if you disagree with it. We are investigating on the constant (bot like downvoting) as this could be against our TOS.
Just that you know, the bot is made by the LW team.
Thanks
Wow I had no idea the LW team made this bot, how disappointing.
Do the consistant downvotes on the bot give you any concern that you are making a mistake here?
I always thought of LW as the “default” sub here on Lemmy, but all of this: the rightwing bot itself, ‘please block the bot instead of downvoting’, the thinly veiled threats of ban; all of it is pretty strong evidence you are attempting to cultivate an ideological echo chamber here.
Anyway, I’ll continue to do my civic duty and downvote the misinformation bot whenever I happen to see it.
Thanks
The only thing we currently see is. Bot bad BAN!! BAN!! Its a threat to our democracy!!! BOT BAD BECAUSE IT SAID MY FAVORITE NEWS SITE IS BAD!!!
We dont see real feedback, just rants about MBFC and this doesnt get us anywhere. ( See your post )
Yeah, go see his response in another part of this thread to my request to provide some constructive feedback if you haven’t already. It was all just the same bad faith misinformation about the bot and the data source. I even linked the sources for how it actually worked and no reply, just downvotes.
Wow you continue to surprise me, I would have never expected this kind of communication to come publically from a mod.
I think I have made my criticisms of MBFC fairly clear, and your characterization of my criticisms is an obvious strawman.
But since I have your attention, let me try to rephrase the problem: Lemmy was built on principles of open source, transparency, freedom of speech, and community input. The MBFC bot does not follow any of these principles.
In it’s current form, the MBFC bot is a stain on the integrity of LW. I urge you to make a change.
The community has largely made their voice heard on the subject, as evidenced by the large number of downvotes on the bot and on your posts here. I urge you to listen to them.
Feel also free to join other communities such as !globalnews@lemmy.zip
. We are investigating on the constant (bot like downvoting) as this could be against our TOS.
I’m sorry down voting a bot is against TOS? Wtf???
Totally agree.
As a temporary measure, I have blocked that bot from my feed.
