The most annoying thing is that the peace accords back then where known to be derailed by the USA and UK, like it was 100% not a secret, absolutely public knowledge if you actually cared about the actual geopolitical region and were paying attention to what was going on outside general news media. Academics were saying the same as well.
The Western media utterly, and seemingly in conjunction decided to under report this to well, mostly to Americans. So your average Americans were kept in the dark of how instrumental they were in escalating this war. And painted anyone who stated actual reality as merely Putin puppets. The manipulation was strong since it seems to have worked wonders.
I fail to see how the USA and by extension the UK are any different when playing the disinformation and misinformation game. Everyone blames everyone else and claims they do not do any of it.
Nuland is just a war criminal but one that has the approval of the American military and political complex. I trust people have listensed to the leaked phone call from years ago where she cherry picks Ukrainian politicians to exalt into office? Go democracy.
Watched the whole interview. This person seem to still live up in the reagan anti-communist rhetoric. She reminds me of these teachers who vent their frustrations on kids and act authoritarian on them as to compensate the lack of something.
Watched the whole interview. This person seem to still live up in the reagan anti-communist rhetoric.
Nuland started her carrer under Bill Clinton.
Surprised pikachu What? Ukraine did not trust Russia to not attack them again, after being attacked by Russia?
Russia has a trust-problem. If they are serious about wanting peace they should work on it.
They are working on it by eliminating the fighting capacity of the AFU. At this point the only peace Ukraine will see is one where it unconditionally surrenders.
I’m sure the tens of thousand of dead russian troops and all those displaced russian families prefer that to just gaining trust with others, resulting in the end of support for Ukraine and a quick surrender. Appatently getting people killed is better than doing everything you can to end end the conflict.
Russia literally did everything possible to try and avoid this conflict for 8 years prior. Ending the conflict without achieving the objectives would be sheer idiocy as anybody who is not a complete imbecile would understand.
Really, the takeaway here is: “who gives a shit?”
When they say “undermined peace talks” they mean “supported Ukraine so they had an option other than unconditional surrender.”
We’re supposed to believe that after Putin got what he wanted in 2014 that he’ll just stop after he gets what he wants this time?
No.
Fuck Russia, fuck Putin, and fuck these bootlickers trying to frame Russia as anything other than authoritarian.
Who is Nuland? Haven’t heard of this guy before now
Maybe you should… She’s been a high ranking figure of the US foreign policy since the mid 90s.
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize you were an open fascist. Usually libs try to hide that.
says the shill for a country that spends orders of magnitude more on propaganda and bots
Compare the variety of things I comment on to the variety you do and ask yourself “who’s the shill?”
I’m just some dude 🤷♂️
Well, considering we’re replying to you being an obvious shill pushing the propaganda line that ‘anyone who provides any information uncomfortable to my paymasters is a shill so don’t listen to them’ I would say that it’s pretty obvious to anyone that you are the shill.
