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I think every touch up besides color correction and cropping should be labeled as “photoshopped”. And any usage of AI should be labeled as “Made with AI” because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

Besides, this is totally a skill issue. Removing this metadata is trivial.

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Some of the more advanced color correction tools can drastically change an image. There’s a lot of gray in that line as well.

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DOD Imagery guidelines state that only color correction can be applied to “make the image appear the same as it was when it was captured” otherwise it must be labeled “DOD illustration” instead of “DOD Imagery”

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Cropping can completely change the context of a photo.

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Sure But you could also achieve a similar effect in-camera by zooming in or moving closer to the subject

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A lot of photographers will take a photo with the intention of cropping it. Cropping isn’t photoshopping.

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Image manipulation is still image manipulation

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If I open an image in Photoshop and crop it, it’s photoshopping.

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Agreed. Photo editing has great applications but we can’t pretend it’s never used maliciously.

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Film too, any trickery in the darkroom should be labeled because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

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Why label it if it is trivial to avoid the label?

Doesn’t that mean that bad actors will have additional cover for misise of AI?

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Yes

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What do you mean by real

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But they did use AI…

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Right? I thought I went crazy when I got to “I just used Generative Fill!” Like, he didn’t just auto adjust the exposure and black levels! C’mon!

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Better title: “Photographers complain when their use of AI is identified as such”

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“It was just a so little itsy bitsy teeny weeny AI edit!!”

Please don’t flag AI please!

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People are complaining that an advanced fill tool that’s mostly used to remove a smudge or something is automatically marking a full image as an AI creation. As-is if someone actually wants to bypass this “check” all they have to do is strip the image’s metadata before uploading it.

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I totally agree with a streamlined identification of images generated by an AI prompt. But, to label an image with “made with AI” metadata when the image is original, taken by a human, and simply used AI tools to edit is absolutely misleading and the language can create confusion. It is not fair to the individual who has created the original work without the use if generative AI. I simply propose revising the language to create distinction.

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Where I live, is very difficult to get permits to knock down an old building and build a new one. So, builders will “renovate” by knocking down everything but a single wall and then building a new structure around it.

I can imagine people using that to get around the “made with ai” label. I just touched it up!

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It’s like they’re ignoring the pixel I captured in the bottom left!

Really interesting analogy.

Also I imagine most anybody who gets a photo labeled will find a trick before making their next post. Copy the final image to a new PSD… print and scan for the less technically inclined… heh

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I mean you can just remove the metadata of any image, so that doesn’t really matter.

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simply used AI tools

Therefor, made with AI.

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Or generated with AI like midjourney, therefore, made with AI.

There a huge difference between the two, yet, no clear distinction when all lumped into the label of “made with AI”

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yeah, i use Lightroom ai de-noise all the time now. it’s just a better version of a tool that already existed. and once that every phone does by default anyway.

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And I use AI to determine the right brightness level for my phone screen (that was a feature added several android versions ago)

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Artists in 2023: “There should be labels on AI modified art!!”

Artists in 2024: “Wait, not like that…”

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I feel like these are two completely different sets of artists.

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no, they just replaced the normal tools with ai-enhanced versions and are labeling everything like that now.

ai noise reduction should not get this tag.

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I don’t know where you got they from, but this post literally talks about tools such as the gen fill (select a region, type what you want in it, AI image generation makes it and places it in)

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