A general strike in Israel to protest the failure to return hostages held in Gaza led to closures and other disruptions around the country on Monday, but it was ignored in some areas, reflecting deep political divisions.

Israel’s largest trade union, the Histadrut, called for the general strike, the first since the start of the war. It aimed to shut down or disrupt major sectors of the economy, including banking, health care and the country’s main airport. But it ended early after a labor court ruled it must stop in mid-afternoon in response to a government petition calling the strike politically motivated.

Hundreds of thousands of Israelis poured into the streets Sunday in grief and anger after six hostages were found dead in Gaza. The families and much of the public blamed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, saying they could have been returned alive in a deal with Hamas to end the nearly 11-month-old war.

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Israel is one of the major intelligence hub in the world. So how did the October 7 attack happen if that was true?

Netanyahu allowed it. Look at the Wikipedia page. He knew. He sacrificed his own people and allowed it to happen.

Egypt said it warned Israel days before the attack that “an explosion of the situation [was] coming, and very soon, and it would be big.”[81] Israel denied receiving such a warning,[82] although Michael McCaul, Chairman of the US House Foreign Relations Committee, said that warnings were given three days before the attack.[83]

That’s two countries saying Israel knew days before the attack.

According to The New York Times, Israeli officials had obtained detailed attack plans more than a year before the attack.

The New York Times, who spread propaganda for Israel, said Israel knew.

The Times reported, “Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision.” According to The Times, the document was widely circulated among Israeli military and intelligence leadership, who largely dismissed the plan as beyond Hamas’s capabilities, though it was unclear whether the political leadership was informed.

The Times is a British newspaper. They said the IDF knew and information stopped somewhere in the chain of command. That’s two newspapers outside their country that knew the attack was going to happen.

According to a BBC investigation, surveillance reports suggested that Hamas was planning a significant operation against Israel, but senior IDF officers repeatedly ignored the warnings.[99]

BBC is one of biggest news sources in the world. That’s three news sources outside Israel that knew more than one of top intelligence sources in the world. Mossad had spies in Hamas and some how thousands of fighters crossed the border.

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October 7th 2023, September 11th, 2001, and December 7th 1941 all supposedly had intelligence reports at least a couple of days prior from foreign sources. I am sensing possible geopolitical motivations here.

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Here’s information from a an Israeli newspaper:

According to Haaretz, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency, Shin Bet, and IDF military commanders discussed a possible threat to the Nova music festival near kibbutz Re’im just hours before the attack, but the festival’s organizers were not warned.

Haaretz (Hebrew: הָאָרֶץ lit. ‘The Land [of Israel]’, originally Ḥadshot Haaretz – Hebrew: חַדְשׁוֹת הָאָרֶץ, IPA: [χadˈʃot haˈʔaʁets] lit. ‘News of the Land [of Israel]’) is an Israeli newspaper. It was founded in 1918, making it the longest running newspaper currently in print in Israel.

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Oh, I concur. Just alluding to historical situations wherein interested parties ignored or withheld information in accordance with a broader agenda.

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Yup, you have to be childishly naive to believe the Israelis were surprised. It just perfectly played into their hand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

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It’s just israelis cockiness, they didn’t take the threat seriously rather than just allowing it to happen

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Either way they knew and Netanyahu’s incompetence got his own people killed. He should not have a job.

The October 7 attack was horrible but it’s pretty convenient for Netanyahu to be incompetent at that time. Polls showed most people were against the 2023 Israeli Judicial Reform. One of the most out spoken groups were the millennials and Gen-Zers, the ones most likely to attend the Nova Music Festival.

Attendees described the crowd as mostly consisting of Israelis of ages 20–40 from across the country.

Source: Wikipedia

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“Bin Laden determined to attack United States.”

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Are you suggesting Hamas was in favour of the judicial reform?

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Either way they are lying about it

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… Well. That was short lived.

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But it ended early after a labor court ruled it must stop in mid-afternoon in response to a government petition calling the strike politically motivated.

When Bibi says he wants it ended, it ends.

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This is what their vaunted democracy looks like. The guy committing genocide demands and gets unquestioning silence, and a broken strike.

It’s the envy of every last centrist.

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Is there such a thing as a non-politically motivated strike? Isn’t that the whole point?

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All strikes have to be done during this hours and only for this specific reasons. We don’t want to upset anyone with the strikes.

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Do you think Bibi knows the quote “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”?

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He doesn’t care

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There’s never a shortage of people willing to risk death and dismemberment to hold on to power.

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This isn’t a danger for him. His people support him from what I’ve seen. They complain about policies that impact their own, but allow genocide to carry out without any notable opposition.

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Yeah, except he knows the US has his back no matter what he does.

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His back or Israels? Because as an American, we have a long history of negotiating with presidents who aren’t president quite yet.

That said, Netenyahu is not enough of a threat to American interests to justify a regime change peaceful or otherwise.

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This is how to protest people… good for them!

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They weren’t protesting for the sake of the Pelestinians, and they never have so far as I know… So I remain unimpressed.

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