Which one of these have you tried? At what point should it just be a computer game?

Personally, most complex game I tried is Ark Nova which did not even make it on this list.

Even some simpler games can have a lot of dependencies that make playing tedious like Hogwarts Battle

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I’ve played Gloomhaven and Frosthaven (not on the list, but a bit more complex) and they are brilliant games. They take a long while to set up so we basically went out and bought a separate table - now we have a Frosthaven table.

I know there are some computer renditions of Gloomhaven, but honestly, it doesn’t have the same appeal to me. Part of the fun is painting the minis and actually touching the game.

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Oh wow, a dedicated table for the game! Sound like you need a boardgame table that has two layers :)

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I’ve played most of these but nothing comes even close to Lisboa!

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I have played WotR 2nd edition a lot. And after literally more than 100 plays I have to agree with the list that it is one of the most complex games ever. Not necessarily the core mechanics/rules, but there are really a lot of special/edge cases that you have to keep in mind. Especially when adding expansions. Dune is also really complex, I agree, but it’s also an outstanding and epic game.

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Wow sounds intimidating! I wish my gf would be down for these heavy fantasy games

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What is WotR?

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Thanks!

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I tried playing Human Punishment the Beginning and it just wouldn’t click in my head. That’s probably the most complex game I have (or the game with the shittiest rulebook).

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How does Dune’s complexity rank anywhere near any of the other games listed? Feels like the author was just cherry picking popular games for the list

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Are you sure you are not mistaking Dune for Dune: Imperium? Dune is indeed a far more complex game than Dune:Imperium.

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