“Threads is deepening its ties to the fediverse, also known as the open social web, which powers services like X alternative Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Flipboard and other apps. On Wednesday, Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse. The latter had previously been announced via an in-app message informing users that API posts would be shared to the fediverse starting on August 28.”
Daily reminder to defederate from and block threads.net (and optionally all instances that do not do the same).
Exactly. Proudly presented by https://fedipact.veganism.social/ and https://fedipact.online/why among others.
You can read the human rights abuses that meta is facilitating above.
So… Instances like lemmy.world, that this is posted to?
yes, I’m federated with them as well, but shit like this is why I dislike them being so big. In the end all the smaller instances can either have strong morals and integrity, or have access to the largest amount of content in the fediverse, but not both.
Maybe we should do a reverse embrace-extend-extinguish where we open everything up until the point that they start introducing ads to enshittify the platform. Then after that great migration say goodbye to them
Most platforms (especially reddit, instagram, twitter) moved ads from ad-dedicated spaces, to authentic-seeming posts, that are actually ads.
That’s exactly the point. There are a lot of users on Threads who might be happy with the Fediverse. Threads will undoubtedly need a put in ads in their app/instance, their enshittification is inevitable. If it becomes easy for users to move over to more friendly Fediverse instances, that is a win.
They can still train ML models (create profit) from the data they get from you without consent.
Defedding from threads always seems strange to me. Everyone says it’s to protect your data from meta. But they can already get your data. Everything on the fediverse is public. They already have your data.
@Dirk @MrScottyTay Also I think that one should ask the question, what Meta could do with the data and what it is doing with the data of their users. For their users they use the usage data to present them a feed that the users appreciate. Also they use it to place ads inside of their apps. Also they use the data to serve you ads outside of their system on ad networks that use data from Meta.
All of this is technically not possible for Fediverse users.
Public is not the same as public domain.
I’m not a lawyer, but Federation would probably imply consent to sharing the data. Whereas defederation would strongly imply you’re not okay with sharing the data with that entity.
You think they don’t collect data illegally and anonymise it (but keep cohorts) for market research already? You sweet summer child
A is defederated from Threads, but federates with B. And B federates with Threads. Now Meta can cash out on your data via B.
Now Meta can cash out on your data via
B.
Everything we’re posting is public, anyone can cash in on it regardless of who you defederate.
I don’t think that’s how it works and it would likely not be legal. By explicitly blocking Threads, you make a big statement about not wanting your instance’s posts to show up there. Also from a technical standpoint, I don’t think a “middle-man” instance will push posts from another instance to a third one. You’d have to explicitly scrape data that’s not available via the API. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
@flancian @Dirk Threads has about 200 million monthly users, 33 million daily users. The fediverse has just under 1 million monthly users. Do you really think that 0.5% has any relevance to Meta?
Also: What data do you think Meta will be able to use - and for what? They can’t use this data to serve you ads, simply because they don’t know you. They can’t track you around the web because you don’t have a Meta account.
Who’s the artist of the image? I like the art style
Also the scared Lemmy and mastodon :( I feel bad for them
Looks like Sepia (Peertube), 藍 ‘Ai’ (Misskey), Mastodon, Fox Tan (Pleroma), and Lemmy.
That same Meta that performs emotional manipulation experiments on its users without informing them or receiving their consent? No, thank you!
Fuck off Zuck, you’re not welcome here.
Fuck the Zucc
This won’t affect the Fedipact instances like dbzer0, right?
Nope. But world agreed to it and this could hurt the fediverse in the overall since world is the majority
