4 points

So funny that all the musk brigaders on here, in full force, can only collectively muster 4 downvotes…

You are the wet farts of humanity.

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26 points

Tech bros underestimating the complexity of real life yet again

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62 points

Tesla’s Full Self Driving does not exist. If it did, it would be used in the ridiculous loop they built in Vegas which is literally like 10% of the complexity of driving in a real road… yet it is not even good enough to be piloted there.

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50 points

Tesla’s biggest issue is Musk.

Tesla held a commanding lead over the other automakers in the self-driving segment a few years ago. Now they’ve all mostly caught up thanks to Musk’s unhinged firings. Tesla lost some of its best talent for no other reason than not wanting to work for an egomaniacal billionaire nut job.

Tesla needs to fire Musk before he runs it into the ground just like he’s done to Twitter.

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14 points
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This times 50x with SpaceX. There’s ample justification to nationalize it at this point with Musk’s erratic behavior.

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2 points

Well, and neurolink… It is so fascinating but every time musk starts talking again all the hype is lost with all the BS he is talking…

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9 points

SpaceX still has the benefit of being run by someone who is at least somewhat less unhinged (shotwell)

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11 points

Tesla has never, ever, had anything remotely resembling a lead in autonomous vehicles. The actual AV industry doesn’t consider them part of it.

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32 points

They’re only ahead of everyone else because they were prepared to release a product that was untested and quite possibly unsafe, whereas the other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business, both in terms of reputation, and the inevitable lawsuits. Tesla just does whatever though.

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other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business

Ummm do they? I don’t care enough about cars to remember the details, but I’m sure I’ve heard some controversies about safety for at least a couple of brands

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5 points

All the other self-driving cars are still very limited in their interactions with the real world. Only allowed in very limited locations and on predefined routes.

Tesla is the only people running self-driving car tech in the wild as far as I’m aware.

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Yes to fuck musk, but also…

“Commanding lead” equals other manufacturers also didn’t have a functioning feature (and still don’t now).

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15 points

Because they weren’t willing to open themselves up to the lawsuits for rushing a half baked autonomous driving function. Their systems likely work just as well as Tesla’s, which is why they wont advertise it as full self driving because it kills people.

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3 points

I don’t even want to turn on the speed limiter because I’m getting random fantom breaking, it’s really infuriating.

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