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What flag is that?

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The Smithsonian says…

The portrait, taken in Washington’s Hartford, Connecticut, studio in 1846 or 1847, exudes an intensity consistent with the subject’s fanaticism. He appears very much as one might expect—angry and determined. In the image, Brown raises his right hand, as if taking an oath; in the other hand, he holds a banner thought to be the flag of the Subterranean Pass-Way, his militant alternative to the Underground Railroad.

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14 points

He does not look like he fucks around.

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Based on what I’ve heard about the guy, he does not.

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10 points

I have seen too much spirit photography and thought the flag was supposed to be a ghost at first lmao.

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“I…am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.”

  • John Brown.
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Yet our record bloodshed in the Civil War soon to come still wouldn’t be enough to completely remove it all. Sure slavery was abolished, but things were still horrible for so many reasons for the following 100 years, and somewhat still are today.

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It was only abolished for the unincarcerated.

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Even then, it was only legally abolished, some plantations never had any Union soldiers come, so they never freed their slaves, just kept them in “sharecropping” agreements but they weren’t allowed to leave. Actual share cropping was also horrific and also sometimes had slavelike conditions.

Some of these fake “sharecropping” agreements stayed in place till the mid 1900s.

Here’s a very excellent video by Knowing Better on Neoslavery.

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18 points

I blame Reconstruction ending too soon, honestly.

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i blame reconstruction in the first place, it was co-opted by the people who made this shit an issue in the first place

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That’s what happens when you kill it’s driving force and replace him with a sympathizer.

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An armed and fighting anti-slaver, gave his life for the cause.

Modern liberals: “Give up your guns!”

No. Hard no.

Here it come, bring it:

“LOL, you’ll die fighting you pathetic loser!”

Yeah. Might work out that way. Probably will if they come for me, much prefer dying with my boots on thank you very much. But I’m not laying down a coward, begging the cops to spare my life.

Think on this my gun grabbing friends; What if the local cops or feds thought they were walking into your home might be Ruby Ridge II Bugaloo? FFS, so many of us being armed is the only reason the fascists haven’t overrun us yet.

Apologies to my white, suburban brothers, did I break your concentration?

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Uh, I mean, John Brown wasn’t exactly fighting his war with legal guns, so the modern context of liberals being in favor of gun control isn’t all that applicable. “Beecher’s Bibles” were illegally shipped into Bleeding Kansas, John Brown butchered a few slavers with a broadsword (very metal), and his most prominent action involved raiding a government armory in order to get guns.

Think on this my gun grabbing friends; What if the local cops or feds thought they were walking into your home might be Ruby Ridge II Bugaloo?

Not sure that defending a white nationalist twat is really the left take you want here.

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Excellent point! But no, in the fight against fascism, I don’t particularly care where one gets their guns. As to legality, the bad guys are doing it, why not all of us?

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As to legality, the bad guys are doing it, why not all of us?

I would only find that argument compelling in the context of advocating for the complete overthrow of the current government. Otherwise it just sounds an awful lot like LARPing of the same sort that… well, militia movement types who glorify Ruby Ridge engage in.

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