Hello comrades! Friendly reminder that American leftists continue to be threatened by gun loving conservatives. You should know how to defend yourself and you should probably own a gun. Find an active SRA, John Brown Gun Club, or (if things are dire) pink pistols or other “apolitical” gun club.
I’ve been in the SRA for 4 years, it’s not great, but I met comrades local to me. I’ve learned a lot from them and fash who post good firearms advice and I love to share that when I can.
Open for questions and I’ll post more getting started stuff if this doesn’t get banned.
It has been shown repeatedly that owning a gun makes you less safe. It increases the likelihood that you will be the victim of a crime, homicide, or suicide (accidental or otherwise).
We need fewer guns not more.
The “victim of a crime, homicide” thing is likely just a correlation. If person is more likely to be in danger, they are more likely to have a gun.
I’ve seen some people posit that the Black Panther’s armed patrols deterred police violence in their communities. On the other hand, I guess their leaders were eventually killed by the Feds. As a side effect, the Black Panthers also caused governments and the NRA to support gun control, lol.
Study after study has shown that having a gun in the home was linked with nearly three times higher odds that someone would be killed at home by a family member or intimate acquaintance.
more permissive gun laws are making people less safe. In the states with the weakest gun laws, gun deaths rose 46 percent from 2012 to 2020, compared with just a 7 percent increase in the states with the strongest gun laws over that same period. Source
I mean, that would obviously be the case. It depends on the person and personal circumstances. For some people (maybe even most), domestic violence is not a threat at all. The conclusion to the second article you linked is, “state-level firearm ownership rates are related to rates of domestic but not nondomestic firearm homicide.”
I think it’s probably not good that the increasing number of fascist-leaning people in the US are much more likely to be own guns than non-fascists. I’m very much pro gun-control, but until guns are banned, I think more leftist and liberals should own and know how to use guns if their situation permits.
We need more groups like the Black Panthers to dissuade the police and the state from committing violence against people.
But, for Breonna Taylor’s BF owning and operating a gun when police rwongly executed a No-Knock Illegal Warrant, the BF shooting at armed unknown unannounced “intruders” directly led to her death.
Police or the state or the judge were not at fault ( even though everything they did was illegal ) but it was the gun-defense by the BF that killed her.
:smh: when I hear how good the 2A is compared to the entire US constitution.
Point taken. I agree with you. I’ve always agreed with those facts.
But there’s an armed an increasingly well trained and organized movement of would be brown shirts. They’ve repeatedly shown their willingness to escalate violence at protests and threaten violence towards LGBT events. They’ve demonstrated a willingness to act on the federal government with violence. And huge swathsof that population are police.
They have guns. I’m in a queer relationship. I’m a target. I have guns.
Completely fair. Since your eyes are wide open, I respect you and your choices. I know I can be too preachy sometimes, but I wish you the best. I genuinely hope you never need your gun.
Have you considered they want you to have the opinion you currently have?
They profit off your fear.
They profit off your death.
The point is for them to fear us. The only reason you’re not chained to a factory right this second is that our forefathers took up arms and fought a second Civil War in this nation. One they don’t like to talk to you about in schools. The only reason any leftist movement has ever succeeded anywhere on this planet is by Force of Arms. The ruling class needs to know that we’re capable of killing them all, because that’s the soul and only reason we exist. Every single law is nothing without that to back it up.
As for profit, yeah they’ll make money off it if they can, but you’ll notice that these same people have no problem with taking away guns from us when it’s convenient. You’ll notice they don’t stand up for gun rights when fascist thugs kick down doors and murder people. So while they will profit off me when they can, they know the real profit won’t come from me but from the ruling class. So forgive me if I don’t trust them to keep it fair at the end of the day. They’ll happily take that trade off to disarm all the leftists.
No. I am not good with hand-eye coordination and I can’t envision myself ever being able to kill someone.
This is something I also struggle with. So much of the lefty philosophy is around acknowledging and respecting everyone as intrinsically human with a life worth preserving. Often I have a hard time hating the average Trump supporter or fascist shill because I know there’s a million factors out of their control that got them there.
I have to remind myself constantly that my life is worth more than someone’s who’s chosen to harm another.
Guns aren’t for everyone and I understand that. I don’t think I could ever become a partisan in a revolution but I don’t intend to be a statistic. If you do choose to have a weapon for self defense please at least train with it. Even pepper spray you can get refillable water squirting versions.
If you do want to try guns one day, I’d suggest a Pistol Caliber Carbine like the Ruger PCC. It shoots pistol rounds out of a carbine/rifle so it’s much easier to control. The rifle in this picture is a KP-9.
What is the situation you envision where I’d be willing to pull the trigger on a shotgun but not willing to kill someone?
There are many loads you could use that have good survivability yet are also decent at incapacitating. Go for a high (18, or 20) gauge and use buckshot. You can even get out make rock salt loads that are even safer. Hurt like hell, but there’s a decent chance they’ll survive if you don’t shoot them in the face.
I mean, look: if it’s you, your family, or your friends, vs them, you still wouldn’t be able to pull a trigger? Then at least ask your spouse to train, so they can protect you when the NeoNazis march.
Even if the answer is “no,” and you know you could never intentionally kill someone, then at least arm yourself with the least lethal weapon you can find - a high caliber shotgun with rubber shot or salt loads. They make shotgun shells that shoot rubber and tear gas. You’ve tried to be minimally lethal while still protecting yourself and your loved ones. But with these chucklefucks, trying to be a pacifist and hoping they’ll just pass you by, that they won’t rape your daughter, or wife (or husband), or neighbor or neighbor’s kid while you stand impotently by… to me, knowing I could have some something but chose not is cause for far more moral anguish and guilt than killing someone who was threatening me and mine.
No spouse? No kids? No friends or loved ones you’d protect? No concern for innocents - kids of the wrong color, or kids wearing pride shirts? Nobody you care enough to protect?
Edmund Burke is famously quoted[1] as saying, «The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.»[2]
Burke did, in 1770, say, «When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.» There’s no evidence Burke ever said the other quote, but it was immortalized by Kennedy in 1961 “quoting” Burke with those words. ↩︎
It is more likely a paraphrase of a quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill, who in 1867 said «Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.» ↩︎
No I meant for the coordination part. The fact that you’d rather lay down and let fascists and capitalists control you that’s your own problem.
Although even a coward can lay down covering fire.
Fight fire with fire and watch the world burn
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