I still don’t see why this console makes any sense.
It makes sense if you’re a brand wanting to make more money from people who will just buy the latest thing, regardless of whether it’s a big enough upgrade or not.
It also makes sense if you’re a brand that has been selling an outdated 8 year old brick that reached its peak usefulness years ago to the point that literally any upgrade at all would be worth it lol.
Why not? The ps5 is good at pretending to do 4k, but is very much on the anemic side of graphics power for 4k gaming. Why wouldn’t people want a performance bump if it’s available and they can afford to upgrade?
I don’t really follow consoles, but I’ll take a guess based on what limited information is about the thing in the article.
If you figure that PC and various console hardware has converged to a fair degree over the decades and that stuff is gonna get generally ported around anyway, it’s hard to differentiate yourself on game selection or hardware features. Plus you’ve got antitrust regulators going after console vendors buying games to be exclusives, and that also tamps down on that.
So okay, say what you can compete on is in significant part how you run what is more or less the same set of games. Most games already have rendering code that can scale pretty well with hardware for the PC.
It might make sense to make sure that you have faster rendering hardware so that it’s your version that looks the nicest (well, or at least second nicest, hard to compete with the PC’s hardware iteration time for users willing to buy the latest-and-greatest there).
Let me extrapolate one further. It might even make sense, if that’s the direction of things, for console vendors to make some kind of cartridge containing the GPU, something with a durable, idiot-proof upgrade that you don’t have to open the console to do, and to let users upgrade their console to the next gen mid-lifecycle at a lower cost than getting a new console. Controllers haven’t changed all that much, and serial compute capabilities aren’t improving all that much annually. The thing that is improving at a good clip is parallel compute.
Having an APU is part of how they get the price points they do. A separate GPU would cost more on its own, would need its own memory instead of the shared pool, costing more, and the end result would be meaningfully more expensive for customers to upgrade than it is for them to sell their old system and buy a pro.
It makes sense if you don’t have a PS4.
(It would never cross my mind that backwards compatibility would be seen as a bad point… Or at least that is what I am afraid Sony starts to believe lol).
Honestly, I would get a Steam Deck first, and that wasn’t my line of thinking back then… But guess which or the two units are sold in Mexico ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Do you understand why new graphics cards make sense? Or why a new CPU makes sense?
That’s what you put in the next console generation, or your PC, not a console that was already released. That’s not how consoles work.
The whole point of a console Vs just building a PC is to have a homogenous ecosystem for developers to ensure that everybody has the exact same experience, because everyone has the exact same device with the same CPU, GPU, etc, across that whole generation (also allowing developers to hone their skill on that hardware over the years to get more out of it).
If you’re going to take that core benefit away, why not just build a PC at that point…
Yeah but this isnt that this is watering down a lineup that historically saw major technology jumps between hardware releases.
Well we don’t even know the specs yet so any technological improvements are speculation. Either way I think it would be out of place for the console manufacturers not to release a new model after several years. Anyone buying a PS5 for the first time may be put off by a 3 year old console and prefer a newer model.
Is any game worth getting a ps5, let alone a premium version? The catalog is so anemic, it’s mostly ps4 games, the only game that would interest me would be TLOU1 remake… but I got it on PC anyway
The PS5 is worth the price of admission even just to run all your PS4 games at reasonable frame rate, and load into games in less than a century.
I play plenty of current gen stuff, and the controller is awesome when they use it.
But there’s so much last gen stuff that just had brutal load times every time you died that feel brand new with the (worse than native PS5 games still) reasonable loads.
Yeah like I get that the PS5 exclusive games are lacking but for anyone to suggest the hardware isn’t a huge upgrade in quality and usability is just nuts. As a PC gamer primarily, I can say that this is what upgrades are now. We’re not getting PS2 to PS3 jumps anymore. Consoles are just mid-grade gaming PCs and they’re going to get mid-grade PC upgrades and that’s ok.
I still use a GTX 1060 from 2017 in my PC. Just because it’s usable doesn’t mean an upgrade to a 4060 would be pointless.
I really only bought Returnal and Stellar Blade on PS5, and they’re both either on or coming to PC anyway.
OK, I also bought Elden Ring and Final Fantasy 16, but of course ER is already on PC and FF16 is also coming to PC. (Do not buy FF16, it is a terribly shallow RPG and also terribly shallow action game with terribly shallow characters)
Didn’t they jack up the price of the PS5 in several markets, and it’s already selling poorly compared to previous consoles?
A more expensive, higher end unit isn’t gonna turn that around.
Not sure about the price, but as for sales no. The PS5 in its first year consistently outsold the PS4 in its first year, and it probably would have been more if they didn’t have so many supply issues. They were selling every PS5 manufactured before they ever reached store shelves for at least the first year and well into the second year. The PS4 was readily available in stores only a few months after launch.
There was a period where PS5 sales compared to PS4 dipped, but in the last 6 months the PS5 has been selling more than PS4 during the same time period and the gap is currently widening.
Don’t need it. PS5 could go for a decade easy. Lfg devs, get better at using what you have.
Anything else is tech lust
Fair. That’s usually the only reason I get excited for something new, because then it means the current whatever is taking to get sold off super cheap
That’s what I expected last time. I had planned to get a PS4. But no. Never saw a price drop.
If the release of PS5 Pro means we can finally start catering to current gen, I’m all about it. PS4 will be 11 years old in November. It’s time to put the ‘ol girl down.
They should have focused on making games that take advantage of the hardware they already have out instead of making new hardware that will continue to be underutilized because they have no games.
