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I can’t read. I was thinking of Vance.

Look, I saw an "A and my brain just whatever’d.

To be fair, the guy is a black hole of charm. He’s casually off-putting.

When ordering donuts don’t dismissively just order “whatever makes sense”.

When ordering cheesesteak, don’t go to Pat’s or Geno’s. Both are shit, and never give the place guff for not having Swiss.

The guy just does casual interactions wrong. Like some kind of weirdo.

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You’re thinking of Vance, not Walz.

Walz is everyone’s best friend’s dad who’s more fun to hang out with than your own dad.

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13 points

Maybe that’s the new tactic. Vance does dumb shit, they blame it on Walz.

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2 points

No tactic. I can’t read and am bad with names.

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7 points

I CANNOT READ.

Holy shit. Thanks.

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What kind of fucking psycho wants swiss on their cheesesteak?

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If the shop offers it, it’s fair game. I usually get American, but I’ve had some odd ones on a whim. Swiss would be good with some mushrooms.

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Wiz or bust on traditional Philly. Although white American can slap as well, especially on variations. Provolone is not your friend.

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Vance, whose name I misread in the OP because I wasn’t fully awake.

Vance is a goddamned psycho.

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When you order a dozen (or more) donuts it’s absolutely normal to be asked if an assortment is ok, or if you’d like to choose. Unless you have specific restrictions or preferences, the assortment is the way to go - even then, if you see coconut go in, you just say, “oh no coconut please”. You’ll get the most popular kinds and maybe some that haven’t been selling well that they need to get rid of. Also, you don’t waste the time of everyone in the shop with “uh, 3 of these, 4 of those, wait, 4 of these and um um what’s that one? no thanks”. But the important part is you left the choices up to the baker to make a sensible choice.

So “whatever makes sense” is probably the best option and not even an odd way to say it.

It’s certainly not “dismissive”, if anything it’s respectful of their knowledge and ability to put together a nice selection. I realize we’re just talking about donuts here but if you’re working with donuts every day even as a minimum wage employee, you know more about donuts than most people. And hey, if you’re a donut connoisseur just tell them “I’ll pick” and rattle them all off. They’ll appreciate that too.

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2 points

Did you see the video?

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That’s a totally different guy

That’s not Walz

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No, did someone say there was a video? I haven’t even heard about this aWkwArD interaction except for what the other poster said.

I’m just saying it’s normal, maybe even good, to say “whatever” to a donut shop person when ordering.

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Yikes, you’re doing so much work here, bud… This is weird.

But anyways, how long have you been in this thread?

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This attack on his “whatever makes sense” is the equivalent of the “dijon on a hamburger!” uproar. Vance has got plenty of weird shit that actually matters, let’s not try to out stupid Republicans here.

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Well, for one, you can see how long I’ve been in the thread since there are timestamps on everything

Second, “so much work here” is really just me talking about how its fine to order donuts as “whatever” or letting the baker/employee pick. Cuz I like donuts, and I like letting them choose for me.

Third, after watching the video linked by someone else, and seeing how you called me “weird” I understand now that I could be misconstrued as defending JD Vance, which I absolutely am not and would never do. The way that FinalRemix@lemmy.world described it, I thought both instances were things that Walz did and was being attacked for in a very stupid way (as someone else said, “like attacking dijon mustard” re:Obama) – this is my first time hearing about these silly food related things so I was missing a lot of context which apparently everyone else already has.

After seeing that video, re-reading some of the comments here (and reading the newer ones) I’m not even sure why the commenter I responded to was talking about Vance without saying his name in the first place. I jumped to a conclusion based on the available context in the thread at the time (which all points Walz) and that was incorrect.

Lastly, as you can see I can be a bit long-winded when I have something more meaningful to say than a joke, quip or question. So “doing so much work” is relative 😉 – But, I also understand where you were coming from now with the assumption that I am going above and beyond to defend Vance’s conversation - which, as someone else said, went off the rails as soon as video consent was not granted. And I want to reiterate, fuck that fucking couchfucker.

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Remember that time the NYT published Judith Miller’s stenography for the Bush Administration’s lies leading up to the war in Iraq? I’m sure they learned their lesson from that debacle, though.

I wonder what Media Bias Fact Check has to say about them?

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Country: USA

Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE

Media Type: Newspaper

Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

What a goddamned joke.

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Jeez I don’t understand why there’s so much hate for this bot /s

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The NYT was shitty long before that. They famously did not cover the Holocaust. Not the run up, and not even during the war.

When the camps were liberated, Americans at home had no idea who was in the camps.

The owner of the NYT was later asked about their failures in covering the Holocaust and the buildup, and said with a shrug “the NYT didn’t really cover the Holocaust”.

As a note the owner of the NYT was Jewish. But didn’t want to be associated with poor Jews.

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I hadn’t heard this, anything you can link to for deeper reading?

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The Behind the Bastards podcast recently covered it.

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didn’t want to be associated with poor Jews.

Emphasis mine.

It’s class warfare all the way down.

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They also kept doubling down on their reporting of systemic sexual violence on Oct 7. Family members of the victims disputed that sexual violence was a component of their murders. They have not retracted this reporting.

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The “great” part about how absolute shit NYT is, is how after the “great media consolidation” ~15 years ago when most of the major outlets were bought by billionaires the first thing they did was cut their investigation and research departments in favor of “copying” the NYT stories…

They don’t care about quality, or content, they’re the typical business school jackass type that thinks “ThE BrAnD mEAnS eVeRyThInG!” As in: you’ll eat whatever I serve and you’ll keep doing it because of the name I bought.

Same shit is happening with so called “AAA” game developers (Bethesda… Among others) except this isn’t fucking clothing. Gucci sells because people want the name. The Washington Post can go fuck themselves, no one but Bezos cares about the name.

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I really wish Rooki would listen to the community about this silly bot. But they won’t, and their staunch defense in the face of criticism suggests an ulterior motive.

Tinfoil hat time: I think they got a Ground News sponsor for Lemmy (GN started an ad campaign just as this started) and are trying to look unbiased by having both GN and MBFC… in every single news post.

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Yeah I had a similar feeling about ground news. I had assumed the bot was at least created by someone who works there, using whatever algorithm that site uses to rate sources. The fact that’s it’s mentioned in every post really rubs me the wrong way, on top of how shitty the bot is at doing what it’s supposed to. And yet, it’s still around. What do we have to do to finally get rid of it?

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Am I late or oblivious? Is grte the bot? I couldn’t tell from the post history. Or is this way, way over my old-aged head?

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Lying fake news media doesn’t want Americans to know about our big beautiful VP candidate!! The failing New York Times once again showing it’s tremendously unfair bias! Sad!

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Seriously, whining about fact checkers not being fair is straight out of the trump cultist handbook.

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NYT will go further and count it as 2 separate lies and clearly demonstrate how both sides are basically the same

FUCK NYT

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TRUMP: Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Fox News: cums

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