how about you stop being an entitled brat?
Ironically itโs this Behaviour shown here that will prevent me from ever opensourcing my personal Projects and thus becoming a FOSS-Contributor.
So no, I am not. And it is in large Parts thanks to you.
Then why are you here? The very platform your saying this on is FOSS, and itโs filled with FOSS bros.
Unironically why are you here?
Entitled brat? Whatโฆ Have you ever seen how GNOME developers respond to some bug reports and merge requests?
Since when has reporting bugs and contributing to the project become an entitlement?
Yes i did. Reported a Bug relating to the workspace switcher and a bugfix got merged withing 24 hours.
Did I say โsomeโ? I think I did.
GNOME developers seem to have some sort of a weird โvisionโ for their software. If your bug report falls within their vision, good for you. When your bug report doesnโt, itโs insta WONTFIX.
The FDO icon theme fiasco occurred merely a few days ago.
This Post and the Comments here are a prime example why i will never opensource any of my Projects.
Too many people here that feel like the Developers owe them something.
I open source all of my projects. Most people I encounter are reasonably polite, but of course even my most popular is used by a tiny fraction of the number of Gnome users. In any case, I long ago stopped caring about being beholden to users. Often theyโre doing me favors and finding issues I havenโt, and some even provide useful analysis that saves me work. A few provide contributions. But at the end of the day, I do what I do for me, and anyone else who benefits from it provides a small dose of dopamine from being useful.
I regularly fork projects and implement changes I want; I also file PRs, but in the case the upstream author has different opinions about it, requiring work I donโt think itโs necessary, I just let it go and maintain my own fork.
This is not Ideal Open Software Development, with many people contributing to a common goal. Itโs fractured and selfish. But the other way, it becomes work, and nobodyโs paying me for this, and so I give no fucks.
My mental health improved drastically once I stopped emotionally caring about the opinions of my users. I still care about the technicalities, but only insofar as they affect me or I deem them to be a superior solution. Key to this is not engaging emotionally; if Iโm not interested in working on it, I just say so: I have other priorities, but an happy to review and maybe accept PRs.
I would like the feedback to know why people do not like my project and if I feel like I should care about that perspective.
Further, gnome is hard to ignore, and getting harder all the time. Beyond being the default, even when I go to the trouble of switching the desktop, certain applications in GTK will bring the Gnome design language wherever it goes, and itโs deviated enough to not be possible to theme into consistency. Itโs design decisions permeate the distributions and create some headaches even when you make a fair effort to opt out of it.
that is unironically amazing and the Foss Community needs people like you. And if i ever use one of your Projects, Iโll be sure to donate to you.
But: Thatโs you and not me. I donโt have the Time or Energy to maintain Projects for other people. My Projects are usually for my exact Usecase and that only. I donโt have the Energy or will dealing with people saying โdoesnโt work for meโ or โplease updateโ or โplease add [Feature that i donโt need]โ
Oh noes! Design spec?!? :( STANDARDS AND ETHICS?!?! No! I Want you to install my halfass, broken solution instead of waiting for a proper solution to come along! Iโm such a special boy and know coding better than you! HOW DARE YOU HAVE PLANS!! /s
Like some of you are buffoons and need to go use something like Plasma instead. I love Plasma, not pushing that down, itโs just that if you donโt know the modus operandi of GNOME in 2024 already, you might as well give up trying.
At the very least give up complaining. You wouldnโt have Wayland if it werenโt for WONTFIX, ya daft cunts.
You wouldnโt have Wayland if it werenโt for WONTFIX, ya daft cunts.
16 years later, and it still barely works. Plasma made it a first-class citizen in the last release and I still had to switch back to X11 because a million WONTFIXes later thereโs so many hacked together solutions just to get it to barely work its insane. How do you mess up copy and paste??
I canโt tell if you are praising KDE or gnome. They both have different goals.
Both are great projects really, and big projects at that - big stacks, lots of moving parts.
Whereas GNOME tries to be more uniform, Plasma tries to be more bespoke.
I donโt care which one you use, really. I just love GNOME design principles and itโs desktop paradigm.
Is GNOME a perfect project? No. But when these troglodytes crawl out of their discord servers, I just canโt help but be infuriated by their pure malice and ignorance.
So fuck em. Iโm done with this thread.
You have a nice day now, yโhear?
You wouldnโt have Wayland if it werenโt for WONTFIX, ya daft cunts.
Bit rich to say that considering the reason most very useful and well written Wayland protocol proposals that would get it up to par with X11 are rejected is because Gnome vetoes it since it doesnโt match their vision for the Gnome desktop
Design spec?!? :( STANDARDS AND ETHICS?!?!
FYI, GNOME recently broke Adwaita on non-GNOME apps because they started using nonstandard icon names without providing a fallback. Any way you look at it, itโs GNOME shovelling the shit.
LOL, we still donโt have Wayland because the daft cunts at Gnome still havenโt heard of 4k displays and setting scaling factors for Xwaylandโฆyou knowโฆproblems Plasma never had in the first place.
All Gnome does is propose half baked measures they donโt take any action on because the fully formed cohesive solution doesnโt spontaneously magic itself into existence, then gaslight the users. Fuck Gnome.
Meh, /g/ on 4chan which is where this post is from, is mostly bitter racists angry that canโt pelt everyone with racial and homophobic slurs in the community. They literally think banning hate speech in CoCs is akin to brutal Stalinist oppression.
Dismissing a post because of the platform it is posted on sounds pretty racist to me. Judge them not by the color of the greentext but the content of the meme. Or, something like that.
Gnome is written by, just hear me out, Malus workers in their offtime who got screamed at by Steve Jobs for misplacing a button by a few pixels. They wanted to write a Mac interface without some tech dictator breathing down their neck, but with the same philosophy of โwe know whatโs best for the usersโ.
Gnome is good as it doesnโt had a lot of complexity and looks nice out of the box.
I do wish the gnome devs would be a little more flexible. However, I also wish KDE had a dumb mode that disables the customization. Xfce4 has a kiosk mode
So, hereโs a thought. Instead of removing customization, people just, you know, not customize things. Itโs like going into the Settings page, except instead of doing that, you donโt do that.
Problem solved.
It is still overly complicated. Gnome is simple, stable and mostly unchanging. If also can force settings with dconf.
