143 points

If they actually removed it, and didn’t have anything in the rules about topicality or humor, they suck and should be ridiculed

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He got to keep his ribbons, he wasn’t disqualified or anything and his other miniatures stayed up.

Some things can be expected not to work as a display in public.

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42 points

Only people who know would know. I don’t see the problem.

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6 points

I think the problem is they don’t want this to become a ‘thing’ with people trying to push the envelope further and further.

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Somebody saw a problem and got it removed. Personally, I couldn’t care less because the creator really should have seen this coming, at least as well as they saw them coming.

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18 points

Eh, we have nude statues in public places, paintings too. Like, not in museums, in the open.

This model isn’t even nsfw at all, it just references the subject of pornography, with one specific “genre” that’s exemplified by a brand.

But, hey, they didn’t penalize the maker, so it’s all good to me :)

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If you take a statue of a Naiad and have it stuck in a basement window or on it’s knees gesturing with a cupped hand, or even with just torn pantyhose and handcuffs, you’re probably going to get a lot of complaints.

There is tasteful and agreeable and it’s a very blurry line into inappropriate but the line is there.

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22 points

They at least let him keep his prize, though.

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5 points

Ugh that just seems like fighting tightwaddery with more tightwaddery

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-29 points

Do we really need to put “no sex scenes” into the rules for a family friendly event?

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33 points

What sex scenes? It’s an empty room.

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But the implication…

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What sex scene? There isn’t one.

What is in the model is, at most a reference to a type of porn, or a specific “brand” of porn.

The model doesn’t include any images of any company producing porn, nor any signs visible in the pictures available that anything sexual happened. There’s no jizz on the couch, in other words. Edit: there is the sweat stain though, which could be considered a post sexual stain, despite it not being inherently sexual. My couch has an ass shaped spot if I have to sit down after a shower before dressing.

This makes the model a bit of humor, maybe satire if you want to stretch the term satire far enough.

So, if the rules don’t prohibit joke models, there’s nothing about the model itself that’s a problem for a “family friendly” event. Which, that term is getting a little damn old at this point, since it’s being used as code for anti-drag arguments as well now. Which is off topic, but you might want to know the term is being coopted by bigots so you can decide if you want to avoid it or not.

Seriously, there is nothing explicit in that model. It references porn tropes, but in a way that the only way someone would know the reference is to have either enjoyed fake casting couch porn themselves, or have run into that trope in other ways (which, let’s be real, chances of it being other ways approaches zero).

No kid is going to see this model and be harmed in any way whatsoever. Any kid that would get the joke is either old enough that it isn’t a problem, or has way more important issues to be addressed.

So, yeah, if you don’t want to allow even the most oblique references to adult subject matter, that needs to be in the rules.

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So, if the rules don’t prohibit joke models, there’s nothing about the model itself that’s a problem for a “family friendly” event. Which, that term is getting a little damn old at this point, since it’s being used as code for anti-drag arguments as well now. Which is off topic, but you might want to know the term is being coopted by bigots so you can decide if you want to avoid it or not.

I really don’t appreciate the insinuation that I’d be one to do that, but at least you said it was off topic. That was out of line. I’d appreciate it if you edited it out. I shouldn’t even have to point this out but nothing about a man in a dress is inherently sexual. This model is a snapshot of a room that just finished filming a sex scene. Those are two wildly different things.

I was just musing about how content moderation rules are always easier when you allow for moderator discretion. I remember seeing a very compelling argument made by a moderator here a few weeks ago talking about how in their experience the ones always questioning where the rule they broke were the ones causing problems.

For the record, I don’t really have any sort of problem with this model. I like it. I find it very creative and skillfully made. I just asked one question about how we should handle things that aren’t explicitly against the rules and rather than talk about that you wanted to write me an essay about why this actually isn’t sexual at all and even insinuate that I’m anti-drag.

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70 points

The cheek prints on the cushion are an excellent touch.

The state fair are a bunch of turds. Art is meant to provoke.

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28 points

The cheek prints makes me think the judges knew exactly what was happening here since they looked at it closely enough to give it an award. More likely is that some karen made a stink and they removed it to avoid the hassle.

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67 points

A piece he described as a “creepy sex dungeon” was removed before judging last year.

Yeah, so this isn’t this guy’s first time pushing the envelope with the miniatures art.

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15 points

He should do That Pool next year.

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11 points

Pool’s closed.

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4 points

AIDS, everybody out!

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1 point

He should go to a different state

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53 points
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It’s official: Kentucky hates fun.

Edit: also, for those who don’t want to give the New York Post any clicks- https://www.lpm.org/news/2024-08-21/kentucky-state-fair-removes-winning-miniature-depicting-pornography-set

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4 points

But the miniature in the photo has a sign that says “Please do not touch.” So if all the miniatures had a sign like that, I don’t see what the problem would have been…

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39 points

That’s objectively hilarious.

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