cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19014895
Wow. So they’re saying that he’s complicit in all crimes that may have taken place on Telegram. That’s insane.
Not necessarily. It might be because of the crimes in the public groups and channels in Telegram. That makes it no more immune from responsibility than Facebook or Twitter.
See this thread
Signal doesn’t have those.
Considering how hard it is for goverments to actually get Telegram to shutdown criminal chat groups or get chat logs (of unencrypted ) groups I think its at least more reasonable than the whole idea of banning E2E encryption.
Most Telegram groups I stumble across for anything even remotely illegal have been shut down, so it’s clearly not as lawless as you’re painting it to be.
It took the german goverment years to force Telegram to comply with their requests to get data and shut down specific groups. Also based on your location things that might be legal are not legal in a different location, from a German legal perspective there still lots of things happening in Telegram that are atleast a grey area(piracy, hate speech, porn) or straight up illegal(drugs, terrorist groups propaganda).
I am not in favor of the arrest or any goverment repression btw, I am just adding why goverments in europe might want to do stuff like this.
France is fucking nuts
every encrypted messenger service is complicit in pedophelia apparently.
I mean yes but that’s like saying Bitcoin is used by criminals to buy drugs and weapons. The problem is that’s not their only use.
I dont think Telegram is something that I would call an “encrypted messenger”
i dont get this. it can be used as one. its being seen as criminal because of its ability to send encrypted messages. comments like this are meaningless.
Yeah and still we should not push the message that Telegrams encryption is even remotely close to other encrypted messengers. I met more than one person that somehow thought their messages in Telegram are “safer” than they are in WhatsApp (and they never activated the encrypted chat oprion in Telegram)
It’s going to be so over soon
This is no doubt retaliation for not handing over the encryption keys
Fucking hell what now. We can’t use discord and now this. Theres a TG group I’m in that specifically releases Teknoparrot arcade dumps. SHIT
Summary: France “requesting” Telegram keys.
