247 points

Pixel phones are a joke? They’ve been the best phones I’ve owned.

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Disagree. I owned flagship Androids from the G1 until last fall.

Android is a privacy nightmare, and serves no technical advantage over an iPhone. So I got an iPhone. It’s 100% as adequate of a black rectangle that runs apps as any Pixel.

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Until an iPhone can fold and send pictures/videos to people who aren’t using the same phone that don’t look like diarrhea I honestly don’t care about anything Apple does.

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iPhone still can’t report the RSSI of a wireless network. Until they make that work, anyone who works in it/tech has to carry a different device to test wireless networks.

The wireless hardware is in the phone. Just let me use it.

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The newer ones are nice, but as an owner of the first 4 because I need unbloated OSes, they were a complete joke in hardware support and failures. Can’t count the number of times I’ve lost data to my pixel 1 randomly resetting, had bluetooth issues with 1-4, and had a smattering of other nonsense issues with everything up to the 6. Eventually I gave up and hopped over to iOS.

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My pixel 1 was and is fine. Pixel 3 was an excellent phone. The only bad phone I recall from Google was the Nexus 5x which was made by LG

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Glad you had a decent experience. That was not the case for me and many documented others. The bluetooth issues are particularly well known and plagued the whole series from 1-4, if you didn’t use Bluetooth much it probably didn’t phase you but holy shit it sucked. As far as nexsus devices go they were a crapshoot. My nexus 6p crashed week 3 and bricked into a boot loop. Google replaced it only for the replacement to do the same damn thing a month later. They had massive QC issues which meant you either got a fine phone or a shit one and a lot of people fell towards the latter.

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32 points

Yeah, Nexus phones were great, but Pixel phones are also good. And Android is definitely not “getting worse”.

Agree with the rest though.

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20 points

Android is getting weird. It’s not bad but some UI choices just don’t make sense. They’re making everything super large, and required so many swipes and clicks for certain settings. They’ve lost the plot a bit. Also, having used both iOS and Android, iOS gestures are leaps and bounds ahead of Android. Genuinely, it’s no contest.

All this being said I prefer Android, I just wish they put more thought about ease of use and feature refinement rather than changing for changes sake. Like we are JUST NOW getting an update to the gesture controls. They’ve been basically unchanged since Android 11/12 they have had ample time to refine them a bit.

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4 points

Could you elaborate on the gestures part?
I remember the opposite, having hated navigating my iPhone for work. I specifically remember swipe to go back not working reliably at all (many apps seemed to just ignore it, others I think configured other actions on that gesture - WTF), so I got into the habit of using that stupid little hard to reach, hard to hit, tiny back arrow that at least worked consistently when you managed to hit it.
I’ve been enjoying Android navigation gestures pretty much ever since I found out they existed.

It might have been a user issue in my case with iOS since I didn’t use it as much, and therefore maybe was simply using it wrong/was unaware of better ways. But I don’t see anything wrong/missing with gestures on Android.

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14 points

I hate the super large quick access buttons. Like why would I want to only have 4 accessible with one touch when I’m used to 8+

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I like Samsung’s flavor with OneUI as it’s kept a lot of the condensed layout and it has good one-handed support. I’ve created a lot of custom shortcuts that just use swipes from the side of the screen.

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117 points

Yeah I like them the most as well and funnily enough they are the easiest phone to degoogle

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So to name a few issues:

  • pixel 1: headphone jack issue so bad they needed to issue a recall, audio would just FULLY stop working, loud speaker as well.

  • pixels 2, 3 (and theorized 4 and 5): using cheap ram that literally just died within 3 years. They refused to issue a recall claiming that was “fine for the expected life span of the phone”

  • Pixels 1-4: if you let them discharge long enough, they don’t charge anymore, ever!

  • Pixel 4/a and 5/a: lemon units. Bad ram, bad flash storage, things like that. Some would be very slow and others would be fine. My pixel 5a died in 7 months.

  • During this period of time from the 4 though 6 lines they were notorious for trying to deny your warranty replacement any way they could. It took me 5 months to get a new pixel 5a.

  • Pixel 6: buzzing coming from loud speakers (not sure if recall issued)

  • Pixel 6 and 7: first 2 tensor chips, known for draining battery too quickly and overheating.

  • Pixel 8: OLED issues, I think random lines showing up on the display. They have issued a recall tho.

So in sum:

  • In the older pixels there were some shitty cost cutting measures they used in order to recoup cost of development of the phones.

  • their warranty service around this time was also piss poor

  • QC issues with just about every pixel phone released.

Where we stand today:

  • their warranty replacements are much better I’ve heard.

  • There are significantly less glaring issue with the pixels, and they’re still reasonably priced

So, back in the day, if you got lucky you got a decent phone for a good price, if you got unlucky you got a shit phone and they probably wouldn’t replace it. Now, you’ll probably get a good phone, with some semi useful AI features and a decent warranty.

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29 points

I’m sorry but you could easily find facts like this about every phone company from the past as of now they are great phones but cannot comment on the AI tools because I remove those

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2 points

Guess I’ve been lucky 3 phones in a row. And any issues I did have they solved very quickly and easily. Ymmv

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15 points

audio would just FULLY stop working, loud speaker as well.

Skill issue

You have a visualizer, use your imagination for once come on

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4 points

Never heard of a single one of these, got some links to back up any of these? Recalls will be easy to prove.

Two pixels, and never seen these before either.

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1 point

As I haven’t noticed any of those problems with my 4 year old pixel 3a I feel lucky and even happier about it 😊

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7 points

My 5a just shut off while I was using it and wouldn’t turn back on one month after warranty period. Google was going to deny a replacement until I bitched that each previous pixel I had had died or became unusable and I was going to move to iphone. They gave me a “one time exception” and sent me a replacement. I traded it for a 7 but if this one dies I’m done.

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My wife’s currently rocking a refurb 7 and the battery life is actually exceptionally good, easily lasting a full day of near constant usage. I’m guessing they’ve corrected some of this through software improvements

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85 points

GrapheneOS FTW

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18 points

Literally the only reason to get a pixel!

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1 point

So you’re saying they’re the best phones to remove the products of this software company from? It’s like saying Internet explorer is the best browser to download other browsers.

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17 points

my 6a has been nothing but shit. You cant charge it and run the GPS at the same time or it overheats. Thats just one of the many issues ive had with it.

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I have the same problem, but only when I run the GPS under sunlight in a car. I wonder if other phones have the same problem under those conditions? Can anyone else chip in?

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Oh holy shit. I’ve done that a few times. Completely using GPS by audio and without thinking I put the phone down in the Sun. I’ve never done it more than 10 or 15 minutes before I remembered and every time it would be so fucking hot. Even with the screen off and everything which really should have helped keep it cool you know?

The big problem here I was an instacart driver at the time so I had all these fucking weird things I had to do with my phone to make sure it didn’t explode while I was trying to keep it charged so I could work all day.

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3 points

Was considering the 6a until I saw the charge speed and screen to body ratio.

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8 points

Sometimes even when I’m just browsing lemmy it decides the screen needs to be dimmed for the next 20 minutes because im just being so very strenuous on it by looking at memes.

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2 points

My friends 6a and his wife’s both have a display issue where the screen just randomly turns green. Restarting fixes it, but what the hell!

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1 point

I got a Pixel 6 last year after owning a Samsung Galaxy 7 for 6 years. I have a notes page with 49 complaints.

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3 points

Pixel 5, refusing to die.

I just cleaned out all storage and man it’s still zippy

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1 point

No disassemble!

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5 points

How else would I get the files out?

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2 points

Pixel 5 is my new phone, lol. I had the original Pixel, now the 5. One of my kids used the original one for a few months after I upgraded too.

I do miss headphone jack :(

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3 points

I missed it for a while, then got some shokz open run.

They are so easy I forget I’m wearing them, and they cover the music needs from my phone. For better audio, I go to other things.

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8 points

I enjoyed my pixel up until the day they put a backup button on photos that would pop up right when I’m swiping. So I had to go through my Google backup and delete/disable it (which can only be done from the computer) just so that I could use my Gmail again.

Now I’m considering switching manufacturers on my next upgrade.

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4 points

Same here. Have had Nokia and Iphones before and have my Pixel 3a right now for about 4 years and still happy with it.

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5 points

They lost me right there, lol

Tbf a lot of Google is shite but i will never deny the pixel

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2 points

Yeah, I’m on a non pixel phone right now and I want to get back to pixel they’re great

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1 point

This is going to be unpopular, but even the default google firmware is nice, it’s clean and bloat free. Obviously people should flash a custom ROM to do google.

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169 points

Hate it like you want, but the effing pixels are still the best phones. Not by os, not by spec, but simply by being the most open android of them all. The easiest to de-google. Sounds stupid, but is not.

I hate google with all my heart (since they dropped their slogan “don’t be evil” and went… Well… Evil). But i will buy their fucking phones until a viable alternative comes along.

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100%. I just bought a Pixel 8 so I could install Graphene OS. It was so damn easy too. I was amazed. This phone is great minus the lack of headphone jack and SD card slot.

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Oh man, the lack of a headphone jack is still a killer for me. It’s one of the reasons why I stayed on OnePlus 6 for so long, and to be blunt, I don’t see the Pixel 8 as a huge jump outside of power and bullshit like AI photos. My kingdom for a high-end phone with a headphone jack and stock-ish Android!

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4 points

Calyx pixel gang over here

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8 points

same here. bought one 2 months ago

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6 points

Been using their phones since the Nexus 6. That thing was huge.

And I’m the one guy that uses Google Fi. My bill was $38 last month.

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6 points

graphene pixel gang

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2 points

The call screener is a godsend and it’s the absolute most used feature I rely on. Many evenings I wake up for work and see that my phone stopped 5-10 spam calls that would have ruined my sleep.

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Hehe, i have an awesome solution for that. I simply block everyone except wifey and friends. The rest of the world doesn’t need to reach me. I call back when i want to, or simply don’t 😁

Just because i CAN be reached mobile doesn’t mean i have to. Wasn’t before Smartphones and won’t be with…

But yes, the call-screening is cool. If you disregard privacy and the percentage of non tech-savy people who are totally overwhelmed by that.

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It’s a real shame that OnePlus just became an Oppo rebranding, because the OP1 was a phenomenal phone, and up until OP6 they were both cheap and had a relatively clean Android install. To date, features like gestures are still better than what you get on the Pixel, and most of their stuff is less invasive than Google’s.

The Android market nowadays, especially for high end, is “which manufacturer is the least shit”, and that’s a real shame.

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Totally. First thing i check is “can i debloat and root this piece of shit which is technically awesome but ruined software-side”. Which i most likely can’t as the hurdles became more and more annoying each year up to the point where i gave up and went google.

If they’d do the same with PCs, noone would buy that shit. Unless it’s a crapple…

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I desperately want fair phone (and it’s parts) to be sold in my country. 8-10 years of android support for a self repairable phone? Yes please.

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2 points

Those looked nice, yes… But hard to get here and technically not that interesting to me, last time i checked. But we need more alternatives than just fairphone.

I hate the smartphone-market and what samsung and crapple made out of it.

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My 7t was the best phone I ever had when it was on Oxygen OS 10, but every upgrade was a downgrade. Features were dropped, ui got uglier, bloat was added. I have an 8t now, but I won’t be getting another OnePlus. Really sad

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53 points

I mean, a lot of the points are valid, but the Pixel phones are pretty great, Android is pretty great and getting better, and the Chromebook gamble is playing a really long term game where they could end up uprooting Microsoft if they play their cards right. From my understanding, US kids now on average know Chromebook OS better than Windows by far, and will probably prefer to continue using it if they could. If Google makes the OS more viable for professional use and flexible and play their cards right, they’d have a really good chance at uppending Microsoft’s dominance, especially since Microsoft is seemingly trying to shoot itself in the foot with Windows.

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Pixel phones are garbage compared to Nexus line at the time. Android is garbage now too, like the OP said. Chromebook is gonna have to turn itself into a real platform with powerful machines and software to ever be relevant beyond disposal classroom computers. Frankly I think SteamOS has a better chance at making a comeback, and that’s a long shot.

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My Pixel 6 is not “great”.

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3 points

Mine was, as is my P7, especially compared to a lot of competing devices from Samsung etc

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The camera sucks, Google doctors the resulting photos with AI but it looks like crap. The battery sucks, it also overheats easily. But that’s not the worst part, the worst part is the ZERO FRICTION BACKING. It fucking slides off everything. Who the hell in their design department approved such a moronic idea? How are billion dollar corporations making such shit products while continuing to fail upwards?

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9 points

I’m still rocking my Pixel 2 and am perfectly happy with it

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6 points

I only replaced my Pixel 2 with a Pixel 6a because the screen broke. Took it to a repair place and the screen stopped working after replacement.

I had that phone for ~8 years and I hope to get similar mileage out of my 6a.

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12 points

I own a Pixel 7 and although not ideal, it’s certainly better than most of the phones out there for me. The only downsides of daily driving a Pixel are battery drain and overheating. Granted, I live in a rather cold climate so I imagine it being not the most useful piece of tech for the folks near the equator…

It’s been confirmed that Pixel 10 will finally get a non-exynos chip, so perhaps it can indeed become the pinnacle of Android smartphones, who knows.

This scenario still requires Google to play their cards right, however, but there’s hope.

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4 points

I went from a Galaxy S20 to a Pixel 8 and frankly I miss the S20. Build quality sucks. My screen creaks and I hate the camera ridge especially. Whole thing feels cheap and it’s not even very root friendly anymore like Nexus phones, which is the whole reason I got it.

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5 points

If Samsung would just give me a phone with pure android and only Samsung pay, I would be so happy.

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28 points

Don’t worry. They won’t play their cards right.

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US kids now on average know Chromebook OS better than Windows

Source? I would like to read about that ropic.

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7 points

As a parent, my kids are issued Chromebooks by the school for “e-learning days”. I imagine mainly because of cost and ability to be managed remotely.

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ability to be managed remotely

Thats kinda of the problem

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10 points

I don’t feel like Chromebooks are all that bad. Especially if the other option is limited capacity computer rooms. I imagine the restrictions of a Chromebook would be similar to the limitations imposed by the IT department.

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I agree, rather than a few of us having it good, we should all have it shit

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11 points

It’s good if you need to protect and restrict a large group of computer illiterate people with low needs for applications or power.

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33 points

Android is still great. The Pixel phone is the best Android phone by several metrics. Usability and Camera come to mind. Android TV is by far the best TV interface. Just because it’s sideloadable and decently usable. Low bar, but here we are.

Gboard is good. The pixel launcher is good enough to not bother switching off. The Google Home certainly turns my lights on and off. And as soon as Google opens RCS, I’m leaving Google Messages.

But that’s the only Google stuff I use. And I’m thinking of switching to Graphene OS.

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I’m imagining that I’d just use whatever grapheneos keyboard, or Florisboard, which I prefer for peck typing over Gboard.

My only problem is finding a time to switch. I need my phone for work, so I need to sit down, backup my data, install GOS and restore, then spend like 5 hours learning the new systems. Things like sandboxing Google are nice until I’m lost in BFE without Google Maps or OSMand+ because I didn’t properly set up.

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I still miss swype. Gboard is usable but it doesn’t compare for me.

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I like my Pixel phones, so I dunno what about it is supposed to be a joke?

My 3a still works. Wish they wouldn’t have removed the headphone jack from later models but the 7a has been fine.

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Yeah the pixel hardware is the only thing they make that I think is any good and I run graphene on mine

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9 points

Google won’t open it but Apple are working with GSMA to add the things Google made as proprietary extensions to RCS part of the RCS standard (such as encryption which isn’t in the standard).

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