177 points

It all sounds well and good but I have a hard time swallowing any Billionaire advocating for ethics.

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They’re all pretty shitty, but Cuban is at least one of the less shitty ones. His work on reduced cost pharmaceuticals has been life-changing for some people, and is a really nice break from big pharma constantly trying to fuck you as hard as they can.

Yeah he’s probably dying in the revolution, but towards the end. Assholes like Musk or Shkreli are far, far worse.

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44 points

I’m staying neutral. I want to like him, but the last rich as fuck guy I thought was funny and was going to change the world for the better turned into one the biggest assholes on the planet.

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Musk (assuming that’s who you’re referring to) was never funny. He was always a fucking loser with the level of humour of an edgy, dumb, tryhard teenager. Almost everything about him is a lie, he just managed to keep it under wraps while his PR machine painted him as a quirky genius.

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Compared to the other Uber wealthy, he at least seems to have some sort of a code of ethics from what i can see, which is obviously limited. He’s still in it to make money (obviously), but his actions seem to suggest that he won’t go to the extreme of hurting everyone else just for money.

I started liking Mark more when he opened cost plus drugs. It’s a pretty decent endeavor to try to reduce pharmaceutical costs for the consumer

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32 points

Mark seems like the best of the Sharks. This is a very low bar, but there you go

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Mark seems like the best of the Sharks. This is a very low bar, but there you go

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General rule of thumb is that if you posted a comment, even if Lemmy tries to tell you it failed it probably went through so don’t try and recomment

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Mark seems like the best of the Sharks. This is a very low bar, but there you go

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Mark seems like the best of the Sharks. This is a very low bar, but there you go

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He isn’t the most conservative of billionaires, but hell yes he’s a greeeeedy fuck face.

Has helped folks a bit tho. And profited

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I wonder if there’s any value to considering the point he makes on its own merits.

And billionaires are also bad.

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That was the part before the “but”…

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People who think a business making profit is by definition unethical aren’t to be trusted to define ethics.

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Businesses can’t make a profit without exploiting their workers. That’s how capitalism works.

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Businesses can’t make a profit without exploiting their workers.

Literally false, even using your absurd definition of “exploit”. If workers were an overall source of profit, businesses would never downsize–by your logic, since every worker creates more value than they’re getting paid, laying anyone off would be equivalent to throwing money down the toilet.

But in the real world, downsizing happens all the time. And in the real world, labor is a cost, not a source of profit.

You can really tell when someone has no experience running a business. I’d love to see you try to open and run a small restaurant for longer than a year with this mindset, lmao.

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God I hate the circle jerking of Cuban. There is no “good one.” His PR team is working OT to paint this completely BS image. Fuck him.

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Absolutely came here to say this. There are no ethical, innocent, or good billionaires. None. You cannot make that much money without disregarding or hurting people.

We need to stop blocking for and idolizing these fucks.

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Billionaire evil is a sliding scale from normal rich guy evil to comic book villain evil. He’s less bad than his peers, even if the stuff he does (like the cost plus drugs thing) are maybe just for PR.

We eat him later than others. But we do eat him.

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Saying eat the rich will do nothing but self sabotage whatever cause youre endorsing

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People can agree with specific things he says without idolizing him.

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There are no ethical, innocent, or good billionaires. None.

Costco is a company that is famous both for how it treats its customers, and how it treats its employees. Its founder, who was its CEO until a few years ago, is a billionaire.

The creator of Minecraft sold the explosively-popular game he created to Microsoft, for $2 billion, making him a billionaire.

Your black and white thinking is as out of place as black and white TV is. The nuance-allergic are disgusting.

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And you thinking that these entities are innocent just because they started out doing a thing is myopic. You seem to be the one unable to see nuance. Truly. Or you misunderstand its meaning, because Costco is definitely not innocent.

I live near the headquarters. They’re an awful employer and exploit their staff, prevent upward movement of talented folk. My close friend is a highly talented developer for them and has been passed up for raises and promotions multiple times for less talented people in the org. Furthermore, he felt his race played into these decisions.

I can’t understand for one moment why people block for or make excuses for billionaires. You’re never gonna get anything from it. Everyone on this side of the divide is on the same team in that match up.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/judge-tosses-costco-warehouse-workers-hostile-environment-suit

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/20/dining/costco.html

https://medium.com/chronic-support-group/costcos-crackdown-on-memberships-hurts-our-population-the-most-70f04f0d4ba2

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Taylor Swift

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You think she’s ethical, innocent, or good? Yikes. She works hard to present a non-offensive to either side persona, that doesn’t make her ethical, innocent, or good.

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5 points

Cost Plus Drugs is a real thing, not a PR statement, that’s saved many people a fuckton of money, and I’m one of them. And not only that, it set a fantastic example of cost transparency for others to follow.

“Completely BS”? Definitely not.

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73 points

See, I, like millions upon tens of millions of others, were not fooled for even one nanosecond by that Orange Fuck’s obvious horseshit so, you’re kind of undercutting your own credibility there, champ.

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59 points

The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.

Fuck off, cuban. youre one of them

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The only way to become a billionaire is to solely work in your own best interest, and steal the value produced by the labour of your employees.

How exactly did Cuban do that? All he did was be on the winning end of an incredibly bad transaction by Yahoo, and parlayed that into being on TV a lot.

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Do you think he just magicked up an investment? He built a company bought by yahoo. How do you think he created the company broadcast up to that point? By himself? Or did he perhaps have employees who did the hard work?

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22 points

Building the company isn’t what made him a billionaire. Yahoo grossly overpaying for it is what made him a billionaire.

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And those employees also made a shitload of money. GTFO with this communist agenda propaganda

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51 points

Bro is just now getting around to critical thinking? MANY people were of this mindset 8 years ago…

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23 points

Oh he wanted to make more money first. Now he’s worried us poors won’t be able to buy his shit. Fuck this guy.

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There is a reason he is able to keep grifting. There are a lot idiots who think they’re the exception. These people need to touch the hot stove before they understand why we don’t do that.

Perhaps it’s because they’ve touched the stove many times but never when it was at its hottest and develop this idea that they are special, but the reality is they are just really really dumb and don’t understand the basic mechanics of life.

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Oh I mean he’s lying. He knew Trump was horrible. Everyone did.

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