54 points

I primarily prefer it because it does pretty much all the Minecraft stuff I want it to do, and it’s got other games available as well. Plus, completely Linux compatible and no Microsoft account!

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41 points

And you have no telemetry, no chat restrictions and its free.

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8 points

Exactly! Better all around for me. The player base isn’t as big, but I’m not really an online player.

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8 points

I agree that the playerbase isnt huge. I do think a small dedicated playerbase is pretty nice though.

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13 points

It isn’t that Minetest is good. It is that Minecraft as enshitified

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3 points

Yes, it’s certainly changed for the worse since I’ve played it. I quit fairly soon after they announced that I would need to eventually migrate to a Microsoft account. Seeing some of the things they’ve done since then doesn’t make me miss it!

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Maybe Bedrock Edition. I’ve had zero problems with the Java version. Then again, I play alone. Lol.

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Idk I run my own PO3 server on Java and everything but the launcher is fine. I’m sure Bedrock is completely molested though.

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1 point

But don’t you need an account?

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6 points

I completely get where people are coming from with that opinion, but I’ve been playing MC for almost 15 years, and I’m having just as much if not more fun with the game now as I did at any other point in its development.

Minetest is super cool and can be very fun. I play a bit on it as well, but exclusively advertising for it on the platform of hur dur mineshit sucks, which isn’t necessarily what you’re doing, I just see that a lot, definitely isn’t the best way to go.

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2 points

Probably not but I hate that Minecraft us so complicated now. I have the old version

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10 points

Sounds super cool :o … Am still kinda salty about M$ blocking my account and holding my copy of Minecraft (that I paid Mojang for, well before it was Microsoft’s!) hostage because they want my phone number, though. 😠

… Also I kinda wanna know if it’s got the moddage I love about Minecraft, but am afraid to ask because I’m stuck on a laptop that can’t really run much without getting all melty 😅

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Yep, I didn’t convert either of my accounts over as well.

I would just try it and see what you think of it! It’s completely free. Minetest is the program you install on your computer, and then there are lots of different games that you can download and try inside of Minetest. There’s more besides Minecraft-likes that you can try, and there are definitely mods available. I never modded Minecraft though, so I’m not sure how they compare.

As to system requirements, it could run pretty well on a six year old Android phone the last I tried. It might be worth a shot on your laptop! Be aware that it’ll probably be a somewhat different experience than Minecraft, but not necessarily in a bad way!

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Haven’t watched the video - just my thoughts…

Minetest (specifically Mineclone2) is an impressive feat, and a very faithful reproduction of the original. I pretty much used the Minecraft fandom wiki to progress through the game. Hours of fun was had without handing money to M$.

I only really stopped because the redstone functionality wasn’t fully implemented.

Hats off to the devs on that project regardless

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The redstone is a large feat indeed. I started working on that but had to stop due to time constraints. Its still in my head though.

All in all there is just too much great stuff someone with a little drive and a little coding knowledge can do in the foss ecosphere.

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61 points

Just fyi Minclone2 changed its name to Voxellibre

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40 points

And it is no longer trying to clone Minecraft. They are moving beyond.

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I haven’t had the urge to play it recently, so I haven’t tried it since the name change. I heard they were diverging a bit from being a Minecraft clone, are there many large changes?

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15 points

And there’s a separate effort called Mineclonia.

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12 points

Minetest gets scary when you look at the code and see that the engine they use is basically abandoned and will never get Wayland support. Afaik?

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Why do you think it is abandoned? There is a lot of work happening.

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15 points

It’s not like they’re stuck on some outdated proprietary engine like RPG Maker. Minetest is under active development, with a small list of dependencies that are also under active development. It is under no particular rush to get off of X11/Xwayland.

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5 points

Thanks :) it is a bit confusing

Irrlicht is discontinued but I think it is under a different name now

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Xwayland

Is that a typo or is that distinct from just straight Wayland?

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12 points

https://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html

It provides backwards compatibility for running X apps under Wayland.

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Individual apps, particularly full-screen games, shouldn’t need “Wayland support”(quotes because what that means will vary between implimentations).

Now, if you have to install xorg on a system that doesn’t have it in order to play a game? Yeah that would suck, although games are on my personal shortlist of application categories that should always be run from a flat-pack/equivalent and/or containerized wherever possible.

Now I think about it, why don’t (anti-cheat)games just run their own VM’s and “calibrate” those versus any weird system variables? Seems like a better anti-cheat than hacking-my-kernel-to-make-sure-I’m-not-hacking-the-game…

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Even if you use Flatpak, you need XOrg / XWayland on the host system.

Fedora Kinoite/KDE and the KDE Plasma desktop on its own are especially annoying, as I have no idea how to turn off those legacy support services from constantly running, like XWaylandVideoBridge (never used) or XWayland entirely.

I think Windows is just too bloated to also use Containers. With WSL they found a good way and apps should totally run in containers, but this is simply not yet done.

VMs would suck for efficiency as they rely on CPU virtualization and GPU passthrough. The former will never give native performance

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The point of flatpack is supposed to be that it takes care of ALL dependencies. So you’re saying it doesn’t deliver on that promise?

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Wsl is just a vm

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Its been a while since I played Minetest but I remember exploration being very subpar compared to Minecraft but the engineering aspects (I think the redstone equivalent is called mese?) to be far better.

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It is what ever you want it to be. Minetest is just a Voxel engine. You install games separately

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For me, the lack of shaders was always the main turnoff. It looks so bad compared to Minecraft with shaders.

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5 points

Does anyone know how to “fly” with double space?

And how to fly faster?

These were big issues I had with Mineclone2 or how it is now called

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While in game, Escape>Change Keys> in the right corner checkbox called “Double tap ‘jump’ to toggle fly”. For flying faster, you can press J (by default?) to enable fast mode, you can change how fast it is in the settings menu, in the main menu. This is all assuming that you have the ‘fly’ and ‘fast’ privileges.

All players should check the settings menu at least once, I changed many things in there, and you should too. One of them was enabling the crosshair in the Touchscreen menu on mobile , it enables a much smoother experience on mobile.

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