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Anyone else stupidly bothered by the fact that he used a green reverse? If he’s playing Uno he needs to match the color

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Not if the yellow card which we can’t see the front of is also a reverse card.

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But then how did he get to play?

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An out of frame third player?

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Absolute discrace. I bet he didn’t even draw it fairly from the deck either.

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Fuck. I’d never noticed that. Fuck you very much, now I can’t unsee it.

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Ruins the whole thing, really.

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Here’s the thing. You said a “dolphin is a whale.”

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies whales, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls dolphins whales. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

If you’re saying “whale family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Cetacea, which includes things from porpoises to belugas to orcas.

So your reasoning for calling a dolphin a whale is because random people “call the big ones whales?” Let’s get whale sharks and great whites in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, which means you’d call vaquitas, bottlenose, and other marine mammals whales, too. Which you said you don’t.

It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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So reading up on the evolution of whales for arguments sake has me realising all dolphins and whales are (as mentioned) from the same family.

Your traditional whale fits into “Baleen Whales (Mysticeti)” which have “soft, hair like structures on the upper mouth” and there are 16 species and 3 families.

Meanwhile there are also “Toothed Whales (Odontceti)” with 76 species and 10 families. They are smaller, actively hunt and almost always live in pods.

The most surprising thing I’ve learned is that the Baleen Whales typically have two blow holes…??? Also they do not echolocate but they do sing/chat.

So almost all your traditional large whales fit into the Baleen category and the traditional dolphin fits into the Toothed category. So there are key differences between them, but the overall family is whale.

This is a dumb argument huh

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Holy shit that was a decade ago.

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Unidan? Is that you?

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Here’s a hint.

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A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, […]. Which you said you don’t.

It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

You lost me here. OP never said dolphins aren’t dolphins. They also never said other non-dolphin members of the whale family wouldn’t be called whales. Where are you getting that from?

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I swear to you, I almost said “is this some sort of copypasta” but I didn’t wanna sound like I was accusing you of bad faith discussion or something 🤣

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You played the Uno Reverse card in the replies.

Well played. I’m impressed.

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…except Dophins definitely are whales. This is not the same as corvids and crows.

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If you go back far enough, whales are a type of fish, just like us humans

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Either that or fish aren’t a phylogenetic group. You decide

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Have I got a podcast for you!

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You can’t evolve out of a clade, or so they say.

Of course it’s not helpful to call humans and whales fishes in common parlance. But in phylogenetics, why not?

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Because that would make fish and vertebrates synonyms so why not drop the former altogether?

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Who has ever said that dolphins aren’t whales?

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Who said someone said dolphins aren’t whales?

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Have you looked at the meme I’m commenting on?

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If by whales you meant killer whales specifically people do say that. They also generally know that dolphins are whales, some people just so excited to correct others they don’t think any further.

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Transphobes, at least once that I saw.

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Dolphins are whales with teeth, a distinction that makes them just slightly not whales

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3 points

Sperm whales? Beaked whales? Also several river dolphins!

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9 points

Big if true

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no

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Kind of a cutesy medium if true

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Still pretty big compared to a herring…

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Bet you could cut down a pretty tall tree with that bad boy.

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