147 points

Anon needs some therapy, goddamn.

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70 points

Doctor prescribed Zelda Minish Cap tho

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17 points
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13 points

Who needs therapy when you’ve got 4chan?

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139 points
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Make everyone always wear their safety gear, be it in the car, on the bike, at the workplace. Make them. Always. Do not allow anyone to omit anytime, never ever.

Anon could be fucking his happy girlfriend of five years right now if he had followed this simple rule.

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90 points

Also, never let your passenger put their feet up on the dashboard. Unless they want their lungs punctured by their own tibia.

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28 points

That sounds fun who wouldn’t want that?

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8 points

Or rest their head near the side curtain airbags. Loads of cars have them now.

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4 points

But how about RSI from sitting still in the same position for too long?

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12 points

Easy, just jump out of a moving car every once in a while.

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13 points

I dated someone a long time ago and when they first got into my car, I waited for them to put their seatvrlt on. They refused. I told them the car isn’t moving until their seatbelt is on, and if they take it off, the car stops.

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I used basically the same strategy when my dad first lit a cigarette in my car.
This thing isn’t moving an inch if you smoke and I’ll stop if you light it again.

Times have changed. They thankfully don’t even smoke in their own car anymore.
I vividly remember the hell of road trips with both my parents smoking with the windows up and I’m not dealing with this in my own car or home.

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1 point

> on highway, another car is driving right behind
> you hear click

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1 point

I stop

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10 points

ATGAT except when you eanna look cool then it’s all the gear at times

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Wow you’re a dick. Imagine forcing people to do something. Instead you should just boot them out of said vehicle if they don’t want to wear one.

Your way is the dictatorial cretin way.

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Instead you should just boot them out of said vehicle if they don’t want to wear one.

That’s pretty much what they meant and not whatever use of force you imagined.

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115 points

holy hell. when i’m behind the wheel, the vehicle does not move before everyone is strapped in.

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42 points

In my country the driver is liable for passengers not wearing their seatbelt. The fine is around €60 per passenger. Most people just pay this back to the driver, but if somebody decides not to, the driver can’t do anything about that.

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24 points

In my country, the driver is fined either way, and the passenger is also fined if they have a license (and thus should know better). Seems to work well enough

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6 points

Oof. The double dip.

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13 points

Other than just not drive. Which is a very valid choice.

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3 points

If your country has decent public transit ofcourse.

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5 points

in my country the passenger is responsible for their own seatbelt if they are over 15. for passengers under 15 it’s their parent. if the parent is not present, only then it’s the driver.

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3 points

I honestly don’t know who’s liable in my country because it’s a situation I will not accept to happen. If I’m driving, everyone is buckled or the car doesn’t move. I don’t do it because of the law, I do it because I refuse to have that guilt on my conscience if there is an accident.

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61 points

Well I don’t understand why people don’t wear seat belts. Isn’t that even illegal? In Germany the driver can be hold accountable for people not wearing the seat belts.

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42 points

Child mentality. They claim the seatbelt is annoying on the neck or big government things. Perhaps, but being an adult is also about doing what is nessesary for you and your family.

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23 points

I’ve even seen people try to say it’s somehow more dangerous because of ridiculous anecdotal experience like “Well I knew this guy who got into a massive roll over accident while drunk and he couldn’t escape because of his seatbelt”. Yeah man the seatbelt was the problem here…

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9 points

There are some extreme scenarios where this is true, and it gets inflated and conflated when arguing against seat belt laws.

It’s all a game of numbers at the macro level, and seat belts save far more lives than they potentially damage. The math has checked out and been backed up over and over and over again for 70+ years and the result is always the same: Seat belts overwhelmingly increase your chance of surviving a car accident.

The edge cases, while there, are not worth risking a surefire death or dismemberment under the vast majority of conditions.

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1 point

If the seatbelt is bothering your neck, you’re not wearing it properly. Most seatbelts are adjustable or are designed to bit over the shoulder by even short passengers.

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In the US, the specifics depend on the state. It’s often not “primary enforcement”, which means you can’t be pulled over specifically for that, but it can be added on when pulled over for something else. In some states, yes, the driver can be held responsible for passengers not having seatbelts on. It may also matter if the passenger is a minor.

Primary enforcement of seatbelt laws tends to make it more likely for black people to be pulled over. It’s amazing how many good ideas get ruined by racism once you dig into the details.

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6 points

Possible case : me. I often forget my seat belt. Fortunately, most people remind me about it and then I immediately fasten it.

The reason is simple. I think I use a car, always as a passenger, like 3 times a year. When I used to drive, it was such an automatic gesture I’d never forget it. But it’s so easy to forget when it becomes very rare. Everything is hypnotizing when you enter a car. I’m glad the driver reminds me, but I could be OP’s lost one.

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2 points

Yup, it’s on the driver to ensure everyone is belted. I do it every time, and the car doesn’t move unless everyone is wearing their seatbelt properly.

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6 points

In the US, it’s usually a misdemeanor even for passengers (depends on state though). Considering what’s at stake above and beyond a ticket, I chalk it up to garbage risk assessment skills.

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53 points

I’ve been in two crashes where nobody was hurt but probably somebody would have died if they weren’t wearing a seatbelt.

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36 points

I have grown ass adult friends who legitimately think seatbelts are dangerous 😔

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16 points

How? I would like to entertain myself with their reasons.

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19 points

There are a handful of situations where the seatbelt kills you. It’s a sad reality, but the seatbelt isn’t a perfect tool.

The problem is that people don’t understand the idea of harm reduction.

The odds of getting injured or killed in any severity of accident goes up without a seatbelt. Even slamming your breaks becomes more dangerous if you’re not strapped in. People have been killed in cars, without impact, because they weren’t wearing a seatbelt during some sort of high-velocity maneuver.

The few cases of strangulation, or getting trapped in a burning vehicle because you couldn’t reach the buckle, are so rare, and there’s no way to measure actual lives saved, people don’t properly calculate the risk.

But I think some people just don’t like being told what to do and will be obstinate about things like safety requirements…

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19 points

The usual “can’t get out if you’re trapped, the seatbelt causes more injuries in smaller crashes, I knew a guy who got whiplash cause the seatbelt threw him against his seat”

I’ve tried explaining it multiple times but I quit trying because it’s exhausting 😮‍💨

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2 points

It took me years of yelling at my Mother-In-Law, who I don’t even like in the slightest, to get her to wear a seatbelt, but my kids still have their grandmother and learned not to argue against wearing one themselves.

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