Engineers:
Until they need to do an experiment.
Thats how the trades look at engineers.
It’s also how the people who have to actually make the things engineers design look at engineers.
(Source: Am a machinist who has to make the things engineers design.)
For the record, I (an engineer) test my own designs (both installation and performance) and sometimes fab them myself to identify pain points, something I encourage for all engineers.
Not as clever as a machinist when it comes to techniques for manufacturing, but I generally try to avoid the need for such techniques if I can. But sometimes it’s necessary.
As someone with a degree in math and a degree in engineering… One of those degrees got me a job.
That being said, that’s the way engineers look at managers, as generally they want to build something that works and is safe, but all managers care about is getting it done quickly and under budget, which means any micromanaging gets pushed down to the technician to have to deal with… And trying to argue gets you fired.
One of those degrees got me a job.
You shouldn’t have gotten the math one, waste of time.
That being said, that’s the way engineers look at managers, as generally they want to build something that works and is safe, but all managers care about is getting it done quickly and under budget, which means any micromanaging gets pushed down to the technician to have to deal with… And trying to argue gets you fired.
So true…
But, I am known to blow up at managers… I got fired and sued for unjust laying off… plus I had some very interesting info some inspectors would like to see… we cut a deal, I got my job back plus months of salaries when I wasn’t at work and a 15% raise. No manager ever contradicted me after that 😁.
I don’t work there though any more, quit after 4 more years.
usually a math degree is like 1 or 2 classes added onto an engineering degree, which is why its not unheard of for engineering majors to also have a mathematics degree
After you hit full time student, the rest of the classes are free, so I filled my schedule way too full. All my favorite teachers were in the math department too. No regrets. That and I ended up using my math skills when I switched to machine learning engineering.
That must have been cathartic as hell.
No such thing here, have to transfer to another faculty within the university at a totally different location, and it’s not like a semester or two, like full 2 years of classes… which is why no one does it.
On the other hand, non-doctoral postgraduate was free and only a semester plus from my “masters+” degree (I know, it sounds stupid, but it’s how things are here), so I got that.
