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Saying Jews are awesome is not a valid statement, because just like every group some of them are awesome, some are neutral, and some are awful. It should say something like “Jews are regular people”

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Replace it with two lines:

JEWS ARE PEOPLE
PALESTINIANS ARE ALSO PEOPLE

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^Nailed it.

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Don’t forget to put back the hammer.

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Lets remove the Holocaust is happening again too.

Right wings idiots have been using that shit for too long to water it down.

Genocide does not equal holocaust.

Genocide has happened and been happening somewhere new almost every 5 years and continuously all over the world so let’s not pretend it’s something new with Israel and Palestine either lol.

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Some people are also people

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JEWS ARE PEOPLE PALESTINIANS ARE ALSO PEOPLE

I feel like - while well-intended - the “also” here is kind of accommodating the belief of dimwits that this is somehow up for debate.

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What about everyone else? This sign needs to be perfectly neutral. I won’t sleep until it is reduced down to one word: “People”.

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PEOPLE ARE

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IN THIS HOUSE, WE BELIEVE:

PEOPLE.

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ALL LIVES MATTER PEOPLE ARE AWESOME

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if you can say “Humans are awesome”, which you can whilst everyone knows the caveats to that, you can say Jews are awesome.

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Humans suck. Worst sentient species I’ve ever met.

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I love humans. Or anyway, I try very hard to. But they are very near the bottom of my list as well.

Still, it was an excellent rhetorical point.

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Presumably, the ones committing war crimes are not awesome.

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the ones committing war crimes are not doing so “as jews” though, they are doing so because they are horrible humans who happened to be born jewish.

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That’s not what “valid” means. This is an opinion, so you don’t get to declare it invalid. You are free to disagree, though.

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“Jews are like everybody else”

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“Jews are non-monolithicaly awesome”

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I’ll let it slide honestly, underscores like “the Larry Davids of the world are lit” given the rest makes clear “any genocidal maniac is evil and neither religion nor past atrocities against their ancestors will shield them from criticism”

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And people, in general, are awesome ergo…

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I feel we’re really ratfucking this, but how about just “Many Jews Are Awesome”

Doesn’t that cover most if not all of the various objections?

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Saying Jews are awesome is not a valid statement

It’s a statement of opinion, which is perfectly valid, you just needed to say something because you don’t like Jews…

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I don’t know about that. I can say “humans are awful” without any apprehension…

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Damn what a blast from the past

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Oh, hey Chuck Tingle, nice to see you here

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So glad to see another chuck tingle fan in the wild

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He is the worlds most wholesome purveyor of dinosaur porn

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Oof, sorry, I think I’ve got the wrong address.

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me and bigfoot will fuck

Smell my finger

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Ok, now do one for the Uyghurs.

Edit: 23 people down voted so 23 people ITT support genocide.

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Did you just pop in here with “All genocides matter”?

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They dont?

Edit: No answer? Just curious, what criteria are we using to pick the Genocide we are hot about?

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More like, “It’s a great thing to oppose the genocide of Palestinians but you’re doing it while buying shit tons of cheap trash being manufactured by a slave class that is currently being slowly tortured and genocided by the government you get that cheap shit from.”

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Hey now, we’re focusing on the Palestinian genocide here.

Not the… let me check notes… anywhere that isn’t Africa, Asia, or non-Israel Middle-East.

RIP Native Americans too.

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Nobody is stopping you from doing it.

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I kinda just did.

Or do you need the big flashy colors and all caps text?

You seem like a big flashy colors and all caps text kinda guy.

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You’re the one who needs that, since you asked for it.

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That genocide doesn’t matter for…reasons.

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It’s not that it doesn’t matter. It’s just were not going to talk about it because there is a sexier genocide in our favorite conflict torn region.

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Or actually because the US is intimately tired to Israel and its military while having nearly nothing to do with the Uyghurs? Leverage and culpability are relevant factors here

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What should we be doing about the Uyghur genocide? What are you doing about it?

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What should we do about whataboutism? It seems to be a popular alternative to engagement.

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Like the what aboutism associated with distracting the electorate from every other issue on the ticket to focus solely on Gaza?

Like that what aboutism?

How is it what aboutism to confront the people most concerned about Genocide with another Genocide getting zero attention? I detect hypocrisy and this whole adversarial discussion we are having now is only proof of its existence.

Edit: How about this one? How does me commenting about another Genocide; which is seemingly forgotten by most gaza advocates; in a thread strictly about supporting oppressed people; take away from the message of the thread?

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How about the same questions to you regarding the Palestinian genocide?

Before you answer, the US withdrawing aid would not stop the genocide. Israel has enough on hand to completely level Palestine. So what do you suggest should be done? Also keep in mind that withdrawing aid means that Israel completely stops even pretending to listen to the one country in the world that can talk to them. Also, also keep in mind that Israel has nukes.

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I write to my elected representatives to request that they do something. I realize that it’s of limited value, given that the representative for my House district, Mark Pocan, agrees with me and has already voted ‘no’ on aid, and stated that he would be thrilled to personally hand Netanyahu over to agents of the ICC; Sen. Fuck Ron Johnson makes it very clear that he does not wish to hear anything from constituents; Sen. Tammy Baldwin still supports Israel, so maybe I can influence her. I wrote to Biden and said that I could not in good conscience vote for him in the primary. Bigger picture, I think that the state of Israel needs to be abolished for the long-term good of all of its citizens.

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… you answer these questions, first.

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I feel like there’s nothing that I can do, because my (U.S.) government already has an adversarial stance on China. It has no leverage over Chinese domestic policy whatsoever. I was hoping that somebody who clearly cares deeply for the Uyghurs could provide me some guidance to at least do something, rather than watch on helplessly.

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Oh of course. Never mind go ahead and murder innocent people then. What were we thinking!?

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I vow to you now, never to murder anyone.

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Why don’t you?

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I would be told it’s politically irrelevant, probably. You know what? Fine!

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Nice strawman you have build there

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What you’re doing is called concern trolling. You’re like a republican bringing up mental health in a gun control debate. They normally don’t give a shit about mental health issues, but as a means to distract from mass shootings it’s a great prop.

20,000 children have been murdered by Israel over the past ten months, with weapons gleefully provided by the united states. Israel is a genocidal apartheid ethnostate, and they have been for the past 76 years. The ethnic cleansing they’ve been carrying out since the nakba is another holocaust, no matter how much you chirp about issues you otherwise wouldn’t bring up, you dishonest fucking serpent.

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Concern trolling? Is that what we are calling it now, got it, I’ll remember.

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If we’re talking death cults can we include Islam and Christianity?

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Absolutely, some of them are the staunchest Zionists

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And capitalism?

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As fun as that is to say, capitalism has no reward for its fervent adherents after death. Nothing that would make its followers feel like they were doing people a favor by killing them. No capitalist utopia waiting on the other side.

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O ye of little profit

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Yeah, but ‘line go up’ is just as compelling to those with lines already high up.

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Capitalism is a death cult because it puts a monetary value to living beings, be it people or animals. Wanna kill some people for profit? Just cut down on safety measures and if caught pay the legal fees afterwards…

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The most disturbing inbred cousins of monotheism .

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China has an Atheist only government policy. would you say they are the best government on earth?

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That’s like saying potatoes don’t have religion do you want to be a potato.

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What a stupid take. Because the official state religion is totally the only possible thing that makes a government good or bad

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Just because China enforces thought crime doesn’t make it bad! 1984 was just some dumb book. Banning the number “1984” from Chinese social media just proves it. /s

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Also

  • Brotherly war is bad
  • Russians are awesome
  • “Russian world” is a dangerous mania
  • Russophobia is real
  • Ukraine will be free
  • Russia was under brutal dictators before
  • Russia is under brutal dictator again
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Has Russia ever been under a system that isn’t a brutal dictatorship?

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Do brutal dictatorship systems before they became brutal dictatorships count?

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Actually yes, though normally under the same people that were brutal dictators in other times. Late Lenin-early Stalin, early Khrushchev, late Gorbachev, and even early Putin himself.

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The Russian people are the greatest victims of the Russian system they perpetuate

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I know so many cool Russians and Ukrainians personally, it’s abhorrent what’s happening because of Russia’s dictatorship, within and without its borders.

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Ok, more whataboutism! People make me sick.

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That’s just me speaking about another conflict without it ever affecting this one.

The word “whataboutism” is heavily overused.

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Oops, turns out I am biased.

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