144 points

Oh God, this brought back a traumatic memory. I was hanging out after hours at our office to look after a meetup group that was using our space that night. Nothing tricky, make sure people can get in, keep the lights on, make sure nobody sets the place on fire.

I was plugging away on my personal laptop which had Linux on it. Having a great time doing something or other when one of the meetup organisers approached me with a USB stick and asked if I could help them print out some signs to help people know where to go.

My install was rock solid, fast and set up exactly the way I wanted, but in that moment none of that mattered because it was me who froze. I thought back to all the decisions that lead me to that situation, even the conversation with a coworker a few months ago about Linux who literally said “I love Linux but one day I’m just afraid I’ll have to print something or whatever and I won’t be able to”. How foolish I was to dismiss the wisdom in his words that day, and now my worst nightmare had come to pass.

I swallowed hard, looked the organiser in the eyes, and told them I couldn’t help them. I didn’t even try. Best to rip the band-aid off, disappoint them now and get it over with. After the glaring admission left my mouth I waited for the inevitable response. I was a fraud, nothing more than a self proclaimed computer geek who couldn’t accomplish a rudimentary task despite all my time studying and tinkering. It was over, I guess it wasn’t imposter syndrome after all, I really was an imposter and now I’d been discovered.

But instead the the organiser just smiled and said “that’s totally ok, we were just a bit disorganised and didn’t print it before coming this time. Thanks for your help anyway!” And everything was fine. This time.

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38 points

If it makes you feel any better I’m 99% sure I’d have done the same thing.

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25 points

I would have tried anyway. Sometimes Linux works better with printing than Windows, some times the other way round. It just depends what the printer is and how you have your system setup.

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11 points

Just say how it is. “I can try but printers are notorious for making simple things difficult.”

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Yeah exactly. Chances are it would have worked provided they installed CUPS - which isn’t hard or slow on arch after all it’s not Gentoo. But if it didn’t at least you have defused expectations while showing you are still willing to try. Something like: I don’t have it setup on this laptop but I will try and get it working quickly, but no promises.

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25 points

Did you bite the bullet and go and print something the next day?

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11 points

Now that brother, is storytelling.

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6 points

Hand written signs ftw

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113 points

Weirdly enough I’ve found it much easier to print on linux. It just works out of the box.

If it doesn’t it is definetly the printers manufacturer fault 😅

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It’s something we can thank Apple for. CUPS is the standard printing system on practically all non-Windows OSes, and Apple hired its developer and did a lot of work on improving it in the 2000s and 2010s.

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32 points

Printing and also scanning. The Gnome scanning tool is like, so much easier and more intuitive than any of the other BS software I used on Windows, and I don’t have to install proprietary spyware.

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Speaking of hard Windows things being easy on Gnome. The Gnome smb and rdp sharing capabilities work simply turning them on.

In Windows it’s a whole mess trying to force it to refresh the network or wait for that diagnostic loading bar while it resets everything for it to sometimes work.

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17 points

Me too. I have a Brother printer. When I first set it up, Windows printed everything in inverse black and white until I hunted down the correct driver. Windows also never figured out how to wake it up, so I always had to manually wake it up. And it simply never worked with the scanner.

Linux got everything right without me having to fuss with anything.

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11 points

My printer can print, but most of the other features are locked behind Brothers drivers. Copying/ scanning from the document feeder and duplex were kind of a pain to get working, and for some reason only work from certain programs.

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7 points

Same here, a certain printer of mine just did not work with my Windows install whatsoever but works fine with CUPS lol

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3 points

In my house, I have Linux machines that print flawlessly and reliably to our HP laser. My wife has an iMac and I swear I have to install it fresh every time she goes to print. But the absolute best printing experience? Over WiFi from an iPhone. Crazy.

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2 points

not on arch, you have to install cups and enable the service or socket.

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31 points

That’s just how Arch works, you have to install everything yourself

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12 points

Almost like the point of that OS is to know about everything that’s going on in your system because you put it all there yourself, piece by piece!

A blessing for the privacy-oriented and the people who want to learn about everything.

A curse for people who just want their computer to work.

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3 points

Yep, had to do that and spend hours reading about printing services in Linux and other OSs out of curiosity. Was very useful, not that I remember any of it now.

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1 point

Many distros leave printing support out by default these days. It is just not something everybody needs anymore.

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Easier than what, exactly? Windows always works out of the box for shit like printers. If it didn’t, 99% of their user base would be calling it defective.

OSX, on the other hand, is where I’ve had so, so many issues with printers.

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17 points

Nah, if you haven’t fought windows printer drivers then you’ve just been lucky. Meanwhile you can almost always convince CUPS to spit out a print.

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1 point

Are you suggesting that Linux has better printer driver support than the system that 99% of that printers users use?

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63 points

Many years ago, my aunt bought an old, terribly specced laptop and couldn’t get Windows to run on it. I installed Ubuntu and everything was fine - she could check her email and browse toxic conspiracy theories on Facebook and all was good with the world.

Two years later when visiting I got my first support request - would I mind showing her how to print something? No problem, but would you mind showing me what you were trying? She was selecting menu items to send to a virtual printer, not the one on the network. I show her the correct printer to send to and the thing prints. Easy. Out of curiosity, I check the outbox queue for the virtual printer. Over a hundred documents, going back two years.

For two years she’d been unable to print, and every single time she’d ever attempted to print something she’d followed the exact same steps that didn’t work, and just accepted that this was the way things were.

SMH.

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Its the same way the Vote with the same outcomes of nothing working but keep voting the same anyway, ya never know, next one might work :)

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62 points

printers are annoying

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51 points

Printing works out of the box most of the time on Linux. However, if it doesn’t work it really doesn’t work

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That’s the problem, then. They keep checking their printer for the printed pages, when they’re really coming out of the box.

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3 points

That’s like all the things on Linux haha.

One day my display randomly stopped working. That was a fun week of debugging lol

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The only Windows reinstall I’ve had to do in years was when I unplugged my monitor’s integrated USB hub and somehow that completely broke Windows recognizing it.

Linux though? It’s typically user error in my case.

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The trick is to give up and just shuttle files from computer to printer via usb stick

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