Basically nvidia shadowplay for linux

8 points

I don’t get it why people care so much about this, your AMD and Nvidia cards already did it for years, are they all deck users?

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No but I fucking hate geforce experience and the fact that I need to have an Nvidia account to use the features of my hardware. Now I can remove that garbage app from my pc, thanks Valve.

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There are two factors.

First is simply the convenience of having it all built in to the gaming platform you’re using instead of juggling other software. Plus Steam will host content you want to share for you, which neither AMD nor Nvidia does. Also, neither AMD nor Nvidia’s offering providers a two hour rolling recording that you can just skim through and pick clips from at your leisure.

Second is the hope for better reliability. Shadowplay/replay/whatever nvidia is calling it now just stops working at random for a lot of people, myself included, with no warning or indication until you hit the “save replay” button and get a popup telling you that its not running. I also wrestled for a while with it recording the wrong screen when I had two monitors, so I’d just get clips of my second monitor desktop with the audio of the game. There are lots of people hoping that Steam will manage better.

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Shadow play automatically turns off when you open KeePass or Netflix, but it doesn’t turn on again after you are done, very annoying yes.

What will make or break steam’s version is if it’s so light that even people with weak hardware can record fine.

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I’ve seen initial reports that at least on Steam Deck it’s far less impactful than any other recording solution available so far (decky recorder/obs/whatever). Like you though I’m interested to see a detailed look at how it does on a standard Windows gaming PC though, where you’ve already got well established low impact solutions like Shadowplay or Relive.

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Many are, yes. But for some like me who play via cloud streaming where at least Nvidia stops that function, it’s a great thing. It’s also nice to have it all in one place, most people already use Steams screenshot function so having this too is just nice. This has been a commonly requested feature for a long time, it’s only weird that it has taken so long for it to exist.

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As long as they don’t charge me for hosting clips I guess it’s fine.

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119 points

It’s hilarious to me that Epic will never introduce features like this, and also complain Steam has a monopoly, as if they’re at all comparable

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The fact that Epic Game Store exists at all is proof that Steam isn’t a monopoly. A monopoly means they’re the only option. Steam is not the only option. It is simply the best option.

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No it doesn’t

A company can be a monopoly when they include so many features that new competition can’t compete

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Why can’t anyone develop said features? Should the competitor worsen themselves just because no one is able to develop the same features? As far as I remember, valve doesn’t patent something ridiculous like regional pricing or family sharing, so anyone is welcome to develop it themselves. They even make proton open source but apparently Epic doesn’t like the idea of them on the linux market.

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Monopoly: 1. the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.

  1. A board game
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But how does the EGS exist?

Because they are able to subsidize it with investor as well as Fortnite money. I doubt it’s turned a profit for them.

Wouldn’t exactly call that “viable competition”

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That’s easy to explain. EGS managed to make everyone hate them just as it started. How do they expect to be profitable if they piss off the entire market?

There are other stores such as GoG that have actual users.

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That’s the thing that gets me. Undercutting is the quintessential anticompetitive practice, and it’s Epic’s entire business model. They give away games for free because they are trying to siphon some of Steam’s customers. They make exclusive release deals with publishers because they want to force people to use their platform. They are trying to compete with Steam using their resources from the success of Fortnite and Unreal rather than compete with the storefront by actually having a better storefront.

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EGS is the Fortnite launcher. Fortnite’s player base is insanely huge. Those people have EGS installed, they just choose not to buy anything else on that platform, except maybe V Bucks.

PS: The installed base of the Microsoft Store and Xbox apps are even bigger because Microsoft is allowed to bundle those with Windows.

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Steam does have a monopoly though. They don’t do anything anti-competitive with it, so there is not much Epic can do about it (other than make their platform better for the people using it).

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Just for the sake of being fair, Steam does do one thing which is anticompetitive; they require publishers don’t sell their games for less than they do on Steam.

If you think about this for a moment you’ll realise it’s in the publisher’s best interest to agree to this.

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Not quite true - they require that you not sell Steam keys for less than you do on Steam. They still don’t even stop you from doing giveaways or participating in bundles. It’s just that your typical prices on independent Steam key sales, for which they don’t even take a cut, can’t be lower than Steam prices. Also the seller sets all of these prices.

Given they’re footing the bill for indefinitely hosting the games supplied via those keys, that’s an entirely reasonable restriction.

This is coming from someone who is against capitalism and all IP law. The big problem with Steam imho is that Gabe Newell won’t live forever and when he’s gone the company could go public or go to some fail son who will tank it. I’m not even saying Gabe Newell is a great guy or an ethical billionaire, but he’s been remarkably consistent in keeping Steam’s business model running well.

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Steam does not have a monopoly by any actual definition of monopoly, though. A) Mobile gaming makes up the most of all video gaming revenue. B) On PC the most revenue is made by games that aren’t even on Steam in the first place (Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox). Steam’s 2023 revenue has been estimated to be around 8.6bn USD out of 45bn USD of PC gaming revenue. That’s barely a 5th of the market power. By no account this can be actually considered to be a monopoly.

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I love this graphic because it’s a reminder to self-proclaimed “gamers” that mobile gaming has been doing laps around “real” gaming for over half a decade now, with no indication of the trend changing. Yes, mobile games are typically lower quality and more predatory, but it’s undeniable that the average person who plays video games now is just a regular person with a phone.

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What is “handheld” here? It doesn’t seem like the Switch counts, and I doubt Steam Deck does, so is this this the old handheld-exclusive consoles like 3DS?

Also, it’s sad arcade is so small now, I loved arcades as a kid.

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2 points

Looks amazing! Can’t wait to try it out.

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That sounds amazing, wow. Can’t wait to give it a go!

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