46 points

If xmpp and matrix are included, why not include email?

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Truly, email is (thankfully) mostly unspoiled as a protocol since it’s beginning. Other than minor improvements and additions like HTML and spam filters and the like, anyone can host an email service and interface with anyone else on the Internet with the same protocol.

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anyone can host an email service

Eh, no. You could in the 2000s, nowadays spam protection is so tight, and necessarily that tight, that you need at least a full-time position actively managing the server or you’re getting blacklisted for some reason or the other. Other servers will simply not accept emails sent by you if you don’t look legit and professional.

Definitely possible for a company with IT department, as a small company you want to outsource it (emails being on your domain doesn’t mean you’re managing the server), as a hobbyist, well you might be really into it but generally also no. Send protonmail or posteo or whoever a buck or something a month.

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I’ve been running mine for just over 5 years now - initial setup was ass, but it’s very much hands off now - email simply doesn’t change anymore.

If you have a domain to test - I can host it for you. If you then decide that it works well enough for you - I’ll show you how to set it up on your own server.

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And bluesky?

Unpopular opinion maybe but it is / will be a federated platform (whether we like it or not) and there even is a bridge to Mastodon, I think.

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18 points

I think the graphic is too old to include bluesky (2022)

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6 points

Yeah, you’re right. I didn’t see the date.

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@bobbytables@discuss.tchncs.de

there even is a bridge to Mastodon

To the whole Fediverse, just to it’s microblogging side, and you can’t follow users on Lemmy, so you can’t opt in, but I have this account bridged and it’s running on mbin

@WebWizard@links.hackliberty.org @khorovodoved@lemm.ee

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Thank you! I didn’t know the details. A recent article I read (about the hate the dev of the bridge received) only mentioned Mastodon.

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29 points

This graphic is almost two years old, is it still up to date?

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26 points

not really. kbin is kinda dead. long live mbin

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mbin is everything I wanted kbin (and lemmy) to be.

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6 points

What does mbin have that Lemmy does not? Should I switch to mbin?

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6 points

Seems like it’s time to make an updated depiction

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@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world Yep, I wonder who’s the author of it, maybe they can update it

@WebWizard@links.hackliberty.org @cron@feddit.org @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com

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6 points

does mbin have an app for ios/android yet?

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7 points

Check out Interstellar

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I had never heard of mbin. I see it’s a fork of kbin. What does it do differently?

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its in active development, for starters.

the point of mbin wasnt originally differentiation of any kind, it was that the lone kbin dev did not share duties, or actually develop on a normal timeframe. this behavior kept kbin from flourishing and implementing all kinds of suggested, developed PRs.

it was forked to mbin as a community project where anyone who wants to contribute basically can by committee instead lone stewardship. you would need to check the repo for all the changes per version… but the best part is, its an active dev group.

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15 points

Wait, Nextcloud has AP integration?

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Yes, internally and also with a beta-stage Nextcloud Social app, but the builds appear to be out of date and not working that well with the latest Nextcloud installations.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/

https://github.com/nextcloud/social

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7 points

The last release is more than three years old… at this point, I’d consider it dead.

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4 points

There are still commits being pushed to it in 2024, but a lot of the open issues are talking about errors that apparently were fixed but not provided in a release.

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12 points

BookWyrm was my first dip into the Fediverse, back when I was looking for an alternative to Goodreads.

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Really surprised it’s the only book related fork of the fediverse here

Do people not read any more?

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I don’t think this is the exact cause for the situation, but having more book related forks would probably just do harm by splitting up the audience. The book reading trackers are absolutely dominated by Goodreads, and any alternative desperately needs as much user concentration as possible.

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Most people I know who read a lot use StoryGraph, and mostly for personal tracking, not as a social app.

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I don’t think you can correlate the number of readers to the number of book instances or whatever they’re called. Most people (myself included) probably just use Goodreads, and BookWyrm is probably a good enough alternative that there’s no need to spin up another.

Edit: according to this there’s a lot of instances: https://joinbookwyrm.com/instances/

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I know Threads sucks, but where would it fall on this? Another Networking one?

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It would be an enemy aircraft hovering above the trees with a flamethrower, threatening to burn them down

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9 points

Ohh so THAT’S what all those “I identify as an attack helicopter” people were talking about!

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7 points

It is the aggressive megacolony of fungus embedding its mycelia in the base of the tree

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5 points

Yes as it is almost the same category as mastodon

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