See this post from another website for more context.
Important: Make a backup first, at least one user mentioned the update breaking their install
A new version (1.32.0) of Vaultwarden is out with security fixes:
This release has several CVE Reports fixed and we recommend everybody to update to the latest version as soon as possible.
CVE-2024-39924 Fixed via #4715
CVE-2024-39925 Fixed via #4837
CVE-2024-39926 Fixed via #4737
Not to flame on anyone, and without reading the details on the specific CVE. But, to share as an advice: this reason is why I prefer keepass + syncthing for my needs. Security for a full blown web app is not trivial and has a bigger “attack surface” than a kdbx file moving p2p through my devices via syncthing.
syncthing also relies on a web server for device discovery, it’s just that you’re probably using someone else’s server instead of hosting your own.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I also think that Vaultwarden itself doesn’t have access to the unencrypted password database. In that sense it’s E2EE similar to KeePass, the only difference being that KeePass is a desktop app and Vaultwarden a web app.
Explain how can you use KeePass+Syncthing with 10-50 people (possibly different groups for different passwords) having different sets of access level while maintaining sane ease of use?
The passwords are encrypted in the first place so the security for them is only on the client side.
I do not have to share passwords with 10-50 people and neither did the op imply this. I am having trouble figuring out the reasoning behind your message. Why would this be a normal use case?
I said my needs. I was just sharing. Hardly understanding your normal use case of 10-50 users on a same kdbx. The best you could do is having multiple kdbx, fro subgroups of users. Since not everyone should have the master password to all those kdbx… But I am sure that if those were my needs I’d jump to vaultwarden too. That’s why I specifically added the disclaimer sentences on my post. I didn’t mean to rob vaultwarden of its value. Just pointed out the tradeoff. Your comments adds on to those tradeoffs, they’re just different solutions with different pros and cons. The user who mentioned using vaultwarden behind a VPN gave great input, I wasn’t considering that. Anyway, have a nice day.
10-50 people normal use case?
For KeePass no, for VaultWarden yes.
Just got triggered for the comment above suggesting a solution that doesn’t work for quite a lot of deployments/users, but yes, my comment was a little bit out of place as for single user deployments KeePass is probably way simpler/better.
I might try vaultwarden myself, given that my life partner is always asking me for some platform password I already shared. Is possible to use just on LAN to sync and keep using the passwords from the android client while out of reach? I was just reading about 30-days sessions in the docs. Apparently, yes. That’s huge (for me, I’d like not to expose anything, even with VPN)
If that works for you, great. But a self-hosted service offers a lot of convenience for a relatively small amount of added risk. Some things I like about Bitwarden/Vaultwarden:
- can share logins easily w/ my wife, while each having our own passwords
- nice UX for my phone and desktop (prompts for most apps that require passwords)
- web vault so I can access my logins if I don’t have my phone with me (e.g. lost phone while traveling)
And since it’s self-hosted, I’m far less likely to be targeted than the official Bitwarden instance since an attacker would need to know my domain, as well as being able to exploit the vulnerability through my multiple layers (requests go through HAProxy, my VPN, and Caddy before getting to Vaultwarden). I can make it even more secure by putting it inside my VPN (I have mine routed outside my VPN for the web vault access).
Security for a full blown web app is not trivial and has a bigger “attack surface” than a kdbx file moving p2p through my devices via syncthing.
Absolutely.
My Vaultwarden instance is only accessible via LAN or VPN though, I don’t think I’d want to expose it to the internet.
Thanks for the post OP, updating my VaultWarden docker instance ASAP.
Thanks
Thanks for the head’s up!
Docker image is already updated.
