TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
7 points

I really hope they fix this. When support for my old OnePlus 6 stopped, I was going to install a custom ROM until I realized bank apps, and most security-centered apps, wouldn’t work. So I ran with an out-if-date, possibly vulnerable OS for a year until (probably) corrosion from liquid exposure finally did the phone in.

Really bad thing to incentivize.

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What gets me is the “this phone cant be trusted” message on boot. Implying OEM roms are trustworthy, but nothing i choose or create could possibly be.

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6 points

the only reason I’ve wanted to be rooted in recent years is when I didn’t have hotspot on my plan and the most complete way around that was with root.

I think I would like a degoogled Lineage/Graphene OS though

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3 points

Wtf, plans locking down device features. That’s mindblowing.

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Why is stuff like that included not included in every plan by default? As a European, I can’t even imagine paying extra for that. If I want to hotspot my data, my operator can kiss my ass and simply allow it, I’m paying for the data anyway.

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1 point

for this case it was a plan that’s pretty discounted and also unlimited without hard throttle. they don’t want people using it on computers or game consoles probably

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7 points

As Kevnyon@lemmy.world said: @NetworkOperator: Kiss my ass. I pay your for service. You wanna restrict me, I switch my damn plan. If I use it on my phone streaming 4K stuff from my home server or watch 1GB of data over hot spot on my phone is not their business.

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6 points

In less free countries the provider also provides the handset and locks it all down.

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Really the only thing holding me back from switching to GrapheneOS is that some of my apps fail CTS.

If a proper pathway is defined for custom ROMs I’d switch in a heartbeat.

Hoping this initiative leads to a reasonable outcome.

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4 points

I love running a custom ROM, but I’m concerned RCS is going to become a deal break for me :(

I love that text messaging will finally not be complete shit between iOS and Android, but RCS is such a shitty locked down protocol.

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but I’m concerned RCS is going to become a deal break for me

For what it’s worth, I have RCS working with GrapheneOS. I don’t think I did anything special, but it did take awhile. I did see stuff on their forum about others having a bigger issue with it, though.

And of course, I prefer Signal, where possible.

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Interesting. Do you have Google services installed? I use MicroG, which afaik has no RCS support.

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Do you have Google services installed? I use MicroG…

Yes, I have Google Plays Services, Google Services Framework, and the Google Play Store installed, which are all sandboxed. MicroG isn’t supported by GrapheneOS.

https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play

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