“We’re aware of reports that access to Signal has been blocked in some countries,” Signal says. If you are affected by the blocks, the company recommends turning on its censorship circumvention feature. (NetBlocks reports that this feature lets Signal “remain usable” in Russia.)

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Show me what Stalinism looks like
This is what Stalinism looks like

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How is that Stalinist? Censorship isn’t some unique rare policy, even 5EYES countries regularly challenge the legality of E2EE.

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Ah, lemmy.ml welcome there xD

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its !technology@lemmy.ml so what did you expect?

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Stalinism is when thing bad.

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Stalinism is literally 1984

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you should let that strawman get out of your head; he’s living rent-free there.

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Making up a guy to be mad at. Meanwhile the US is a bastion of privacy of course

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I’ve already read several comments just like that over on .ml.

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98 points

Legitimate countries don’t need to ban communications platforms.

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Is tiktok ok?

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He said “communications platforms” not “misinformation, social engineering, and mass data collection platform masquerading as a social media platform”

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not “misinformation, social engineering, and mass data collection platform masquerading as a social media platform”

Yeah and what do you think Russia for example sees almost every American “communiction platform” as? And it’s not as if they don’t have a reason, like every american platform that is every other major social media that isn’t tiktok is censored, controlled and swarming with bots doing narrative control and spam. It really is the height of arrogance and hypocrisy to say that TiKTok is the real pressing problem. I don’t even use TikTok, but I find it so fucking disgusting how every “freespeech freedomlover” comes out of the woodwork to demand it’s shutting it down just to enforce American social media monopoly over the world. Even if Bytedance has bent over backwards to prove that there isn’t any misconduct (of things that US based tech companies are routinely mandated to do for US gov, state department and the intelligence services), because it’s only bad if somebody else does the excact same thing to us as we would have done to them.

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🤡

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you can just say “social media.”

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I wish they would apply that standard universally.

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Does ByteDance publish TikTok’s transmission protocol to demonstrate transparency?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol

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bytedance offered the government unfettered access and moved their entire infrastructure to the united states; it was more transparent than anything else out there.

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Signal doesn’t even provide reproducible builds 🤣

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tiktok is a platform to share information and communicate, yes

which is why the french government banned it in Kanaky (“new caledonia”) during the protests there, as it was a tool of communication used by the protesters

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Pro-independence Kanak parties use the name (la) Kanaky

TIL

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probably not in anyway unless if bytedance strips the algorithm and sells it to like cloudflare, mozilla for example instead of facebook.

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I’d say social media platforms are an entire different beast.

Facebook is not the same as Facebook Messenger for instance.

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We should allow the US surveillance giants into all countries, and let US companies control all world social media and communications platforms. Signal too, since it’s a US-hosted centralized service that must follow its NSL laws /s

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I find these absolutist arguments particularly hilarious in face of UK now actively talking about restricting social media, and arresting people for posts. When people use media to incite violence and social unrest in countries the west considers to be adversaries, free speech stands above all other considerations. However, as soon as these things start happening in the west, then the restrictions on speech are immediately put into place.

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I kinda disagree - that’s not to say that they don’t usually do so for illegitimate reasons (or that these bans are legitimate), but there’s plenty of valid reasons why a government would want/need to ban a platform

X, for example, has been giving the UK a whole lot of good reasons why they may wish to consider it (restoring the accounts of people like Tommy Robinson, allowing misinformation, the owner of the platform himself actively spreading that misinformation)

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Poe’s Law

Do you really not see that this is literally just “we are the good guys so it is ok if we do it”?

“Misinformation” is whatever those in power decide to be such, whether it can be found on Signal or X or wherever, and whether the ones deciding it are in power in the UK, the US, India, Germany, Venezuela, or Russia.

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I take that as a compelling recommendation for Signal.

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Agreed. Clearly it must do simply what is said on the tin, otherwise why ban it?

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Just turn on the censorship intervention feature

based

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Fetch

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