right… more like that first line is: Genocide bad so don’t vote for democrats.
Many left voters agree genocide is bad, we can vote for Democrats while also protesting and reaching out to our reps to stop the genocide.
And the reps will ignore you because what are you going to do, not vote for them? You already telegraphed that you will vote for them anyways.
In the party database, you show up as: Last Name, First Name, likely voter, donor yes/no. Literally, this is how much they think about you.
PS I thought genocide was an unconscionable, intolerable crime that required your specific action to ensure it “never again” happens. Now it’s just “bad”, like high housing costs? Do you see how your own soul is distorted by this naive partisanship?
If they ignore you and you keep voting for them, what’s their motivation to take you seriously? The only leverage the average voter has is their vote. If they know that they can count on your vote no matter what they do, then they don’t have to listen to you.
That’s like saying oh yeah my friend is a serial killer, but at least he doesn’t beat his family. Besides, I will tell him how upset I am about all the murdering he’s doing next time we go out for beers.
No offense, but that’s really goddamn stupid. Do you understand that voting is an exercise in constrained optimization.
The only thing that’s really goddamn stupid is pretending that voting for genocide is somehow moral. No better illustration of the fact that liberals are utterly morally bankrupt.
We have a choice between one person publicly calling for a ceasefire and another who says Israel needs to finish the job.
I’m not sure what you want us to do here.
Are you easily fooled by someone saying one thing while doing the opposite? don’t you not care whether their actions align with their words or not?
They want you to not vote or vote for a 3rd party. Don’t y’all get that yet? It’s about getting Trump reelected and bashing liberals in the guise of being leftist
Or you could “organize” or “educate yourself” or maybe “start a community” and like that’ll fix everything
Don’t forget you can do some random kind of “direct action” too.
The psychotic take is saying, sure the party I’m going to vote for is committing crimes against humanity, but at least they’re might be less repressive at home.
Except both political parties that have a chance of winning are pro genocide.
The point of red lines is to not cross them. If you consider supporting a genocide a red line, which is certainly what I was taught, that means the system has moved beyond the pale and you must now take a different approach to politics than the horse race lesser evil logic that you were taught by the ruling class.
Namely, start working on other ways to build political power. The other ways are actually stronger. The ruling class, logically, teaches you to only see politics through a lens that disempowers you. It gives you playdough when you need a knife.
What’s really funny, is that this is something both the ancient greeks knew (that voting is nothing more than a popularity contest / theatre piece, since the only people able to fund their campaigns come from the upper classes), and that Marxists in the 1800s rediscovered when they dealt their own theoretical death blows to liberalism.
Upper-class USonians love their reality TV show elections, but most people are smarter than them, and have realized that voting has never improved their lives, or taken war off the menu.
Makes sense why so many Germans supported the nazi party, there just wasn’t any other choice.
Yeah. I really don’t think that is it.
My point is that it doesn’t matter who you vote for, whoever it is is going to support genocide. You can choose not to vote. You can vote for someone who has no chance. Or you can choose to select a candidate based on other things they have said or have done.
Takes some pretty flexible morals to ignore a genocide and “focus on other things” instead.
Who are you voting for?
I’m voting for Kamala Harris.
EDIT:
Not a single Grad or Hexbear user has given me a real answer. I really don’t know how you expect to persuade people of your beliefs when you’re this scared to have a serious conversation.
I suspect a significant percentage of very vocal individuals in Lemmy politics threads can’t even vote in US elections because they don’t live here.
I’m sure getting that feeling. They REALLY don’t want you voting for Biden, but can’t suggest an alternative voting option.
Weird. (Which also bugs them, for some reason.)
They REALLY don’t want you voting for Biden
Bwahaha most politically aware liberal
I’m not sure why I’ve been subscribed to this community for this long.
Oh. I didn’t realize I was subscribed to lemmy.ml. Let me migrate outta here
Tell me your life is focused on spreading discontent and hatred without telling me your life is focused on spreading discontent and hatred.