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Why are we still posting screencaptures of stuff from Twitter/not-X/Twitter?

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well if you can say something funnier, I’ll post a screenshot of that

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Isn’t that a part of the ai marketing though? That whole “this thing could destroy us” stuff?

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Totally is. Because it makes the AI look and feel much better than the smoke-and-mirrors it actually is.

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The current stuff is smoke and mirrors and not intelligent in any meaningful sense, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t dangerous. It doesn’t have to be robots with guns to screw over people. Just imagine trying to get PharmaGPT to let you refill your meds, or having to deal with BankGPT trying to figure out why it transfered your rent payment twice. And companies are sure as hell thinking about using this stuff to get rid of human decisionmakers.

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That is totally true but that’s a different direction than the danger in the marketing as discussed above.

The media is full of “AI is so amazingly great, we are all going to lose our jobs and it will take over the world.”

That’s a quite different message than what’s really the case, which is “AI is so shitty, that it will literaly kill people with bad advice when given the chance. And business leaders are so shit that they willingly trust AI, just because it’s cheaper.”

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Do you see any reason to think enough iterations of random nodes in a large enough network could result in emergent conscious intelligence?

Or are you more of a spiritualist than a materialist when it comes to the mind?

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I can’t say anything about the spiritualist/materialist thing, but there are two things that are clear:

First: Same as you won’t be able to ever get a Shakespeare work by randomly stringing letters together in any reasonable time frame, you won’t be able to do the same with conciousnes. If it’s possible, the number of incorrect permutations are so massive, that just random trying will not ever be enough in any realistic amount of time.

Second: Transformer networks and all other generative AI concepts we have today aren’t even trying to create a conciousnes. They are not the path to general AI.

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There are thousands of sci-fi novels where sentient robots are treated terribly by humans and apparently the people at Boston Dynamics have read absolutely zero of them as they spend all day finding new ways to torment their creations.

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People think I’m crazy for apologising to my roomba when I trip on it and for saying please and thank you to Alexa and Siri, but I won’t be surprised at all when the robots rise up, considering how our scientists are treating them. I’ll have a track record of being nice, and that has to count for something, right?

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They’ll kill you too, but ✨ 𝓰𝓮𝓷𝓽𝓵𝔂 ✨

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Softly. With their words.

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Those are just brainless bodies, currently. They don’t have sentience and have no ability to suffer. They’re nothing more than hydraulics, servos, and gyros. I’d be more concerned about mistreatment of advanced AI in disembodied form, something we’re dabbling potentially close to currently.

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You’re the one that’s gonna be in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

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I disagree. I care greatly about not mistreating anything with consciousness and worry of where that line is and how we’ll even be able to tell that we’ve crossed it.

I also recognized that a machinized body without a brain is exactly that - a cluster of unthinking matter. A true artificial intelligence wouldn’t be offended by the mistreatment of inanimate gears and servos any more than I would be. The mistreatment of an intelligent entity, however, is a different story.

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Food for thought, though: we thought the same thing about all other animals until only a couple of decades ago, and are still struggling over the topic.

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…Just no. Animals are complex organic beings. Of course, we don’t understand them. Machines, though? We built machines from the literal Earth. Their level of complexity is incomparable to that of anything made by nature.

Now, take a sufficiently advanced neural network that’s essentially a black box that no human can possibly understand entirely and put it inside of that machine? Then you’re absolutely right. We’ll get there soon, I’m sure. For now, however, a physical robotic body is just a machine, no different than a car.

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but you need to hit it with a hockey stick otherwise the science doesn’t happen

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Do you get more science or less if you use a baseball bat?

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only one way to find out!

that’s the magic of science 🌈🏏🤖

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