“Last month, Mozilla made a quiet change in Firefox that caused some diehard users to revolt…”

115 points

I am doubly pissed off:

  • Mozilla opts me into an analytics scheme without requiring my permission. That’s bad.
  • Mozilla partners with fucking FACEBOOK to spring this shit on me? Now THAT takes the cake!

But… I would be pissed off if I used straight Firefox, and I don’t: I use LibreWolf, and I have no doubt they’ll strip this latest round of Mozilla nonsense from the LibreWolf browser.

I don’t know… I have a love/hate relationship with Mozilla: on the one hand, they’re pretty much the only thing that stands between the final overrun of the web by the Google monoculture and still having some kind of a choice what you use to hit the internet, and they make one of the only email clients worth its salt in Linux. On the other hand, every time they decide to do something, it’s always a screw-up, and it’s been like that for decades. Surely in their position, they should know what not to do to piss off everybody all the time, and yet… What a weird bunch.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

I like to think the behind the scenes is just a decades long game of dare in Mozilla’s leadership that slowly got out of control but they’ve all gotten too deep in it now to give up and just call it a tie.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

LibreWolf is great as long as they’re able to pull out malicious advertising.

I hope some of the completely independent projects start taking off. Chrome is cancer. Manifest V3 is metastasized cancer. Mozilla is basically taking up smoking.

I miss the days when we had functioning software without telemetry whenever we wiggle a mouse and ads in every corner.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I’ve been mostly using Mullvad, and so far it worked pretty well out of the box. Few sites break, and for that I have LibreWolf, but other than that, I’m enjoying Mullvad more.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-13 points

“They made this technology for advertisers, specifically,” says Jonah Aragon, founder of the Privacy Guides website. “There’s no direct benefit to the user in creating this. It’s software that only serves a party other than the user.”

Ah, the Dunning-Kruger effect.

permalink
report
reply
11 points

Dunning-Kruger effect

could you please explain further what you mean and what you’re referring to?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

It refers to people that no a little about something and so assume they know a lot. To suggest that Mozilla PPA has no benefit to the average user is disingenuous at best or outright malicious malpractice with the intent of defamation.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

To suggest that Mozilla PPA has no benefit to the average user is disingenuous at best or outright malicious malpractice with the intent of defamation

Thanks. Could you give some examples how the average user benefits from this collaboration between mozilla and meta, as implemented or due for implementation in firefox?

permalink
report
parent
reply
48 points

The first part actually reads slightly optimistic.

Modern tabs management, web apps making a comeback, more money for the Browser instead of useless side projects, etc.

We still need to turn of tons of telemetry and user tracking, but its nice to see some movement.

Let’s hope that this isn’t just new CEO bla bla.

permalink
report
reply
5 points

They bought an ads company AFTER this person took the reins

permalink
report
parent
reply
25 points

The could learn from Librewolf

permalink
report
reply
3 points

Did Fennec do all this privacy nonsense too?

permalink
report
reply
6 points
*

Yes, but there are forks that are more private and have saner defaults like Mull, however some privacy guides warn against using anything firefox-based on android at all due to lack of process isolation and I think a couple other things.

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/revise-statements-on-gecko-browsers-android-to-make-security-shortcomings-clear/17840

Friendly reminder to define your own threat model and do what makes the most sense for you personally, as many privacy opinions in communities and guides like this might be seen as too extreme to some people… I’m just relaying information I have seen that probably most people haven’t.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Thanks for the insight. I deleted Fennec and migrated over to Mull.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Privacy

!privacy@lemmy.ml

Create post

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

  • Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
  • Don’t promote proprietary software
  • Try to keep things on topic
  • If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
  • Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
  • Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

Community stats

  • 5.5K

    Monthly active users

  • 1.8K

    Posts

  • 27K

    Comments