74 points

I am specifically waiting for this to happen so I can be part of the flood to Firefox when they finally throw the switch.

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Why wait?

Also, Brave browser exists for those who are particularly attached to chromium.

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168 points

I’m not touching brave with a 10 ft pole but thanks for your advertisement

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15 points

I’m just learning about what all the fuss around Brave is. But I’d be interested to hear how Google seems to be the ethical choice for a daily driver browser currently. It’s obviously fine to not want to use Brave, but how is it the inferior choice when compared to Chrome (or even considered a sidegrade)? Even with all the issues mentioned I’d still recommend it as the lesser of the 2 evils compared to Chrome.

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-70 points

Lemmy always seems to hate Brave but no one ever says why

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9 points

brave is literally just chromium, it solves none of the fundamental problems other than being like, reasonably well built.

It’s chrome, but if it didnt’t try and kill you ever update. That’s the difference.

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5 points

I could see this as part of a metrics thing - if Google sees a big drop in users right after the rollout, it’s harder to brush it under the rug as having no correlation.

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3 points

Or perhaps try ungoogled chrome if you enjoy Chrome.

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0 points

Lmao down voted to oblivion

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Brave is a great browser and the only chromium one I would ever use but mentioning it on Reddit OR Lemmy will cause you to get mass downvoted unfortunately

The browser lets you customize the dashboard so you can make the browser look as clean or minimal as you want with almost no distractions

Biggest issue I have with Firefox is that some websites can be broken but 99.9% of the time this is not Firefox’s fault and the only one to blame is lazy developer’s

Firefox out of the box doesn’t come with specific features that the websites that I use need which is why I haven’t made the switch yet, biggest one is that Firefox doesn’t work with Keychron’s in browser software that is used to customize their keyboards. Again this is not Firefox’s fault because Firefox didn’t adopt the feature because of security concerns which is completely valid and even commendable.

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While introducing opt-out tracking where you data is sent to advertisers. Get LibreWolf instead.

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21 points

Oh I didn’t know this fork, thanks!

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19 points

Or just set the few relevant settings manually, if you need nightly/dev edition.

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13 points

Until the next dumb shit Mozilla does without telling its users.

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21 points

Except I’ve heard about every change from here. And as I read the nightly changelogs, it’s not that hidden actually.

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1 point

I’m about to reach a point where I just abandon technology. Become a full luddite and let it burn over its own hubris.

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45 points

I’m really hoping Google’s antitrust case doesn’t kill Mozilla. Over 85% of Mozilla’s cash flow is dependent on Google paying for that search box.

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39 points

If Mozilla stopped paying his CEO millions of dollars… and if they actually financed development with people donations…

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12 points

We don’t know what they pay their new CEO.

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14 points

I don’t think google wants to get hit with another antitrust lawsuit for web browsing, so I am sure they will figure out some other deal to funnel money to Firefox

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9 points

Good point. Could be like MS and Apple in the late 90’s. When Apple was on death’s door, Gates invested in Apple so MS would have faux competition for regulators.

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2 points

Honestly at least they’d be forced to revamp their business model and focus on their users. I’d willingly donate to them monthly if it went to firefox directly and they acted in our interest accordingly

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45 points

Still the best browser, even though the majority left it for the speed they think chrome has.

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8 points

I’m back on Firefox now, but I did originally leave it because Edge had the speed. Not sure if that’s because it’s more optimized for Windows.

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4 points

I mean yeah, all these big tech companies are trying to make their products feel faster, because that’s the only space they can compete. When it comes to privacy, they all lose.

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1 point

Chrome definitely has the more sleek and responsive UI.

But that’s all Chrome has.

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1 point

YouTube videos for some reason won’t load for me on Firefox. I switched to the Waterfox fork and it’s fine.

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11 points

Well, Google has been caught trying to make their sites slower / malfunctioning on Firefox. Usually they get away with it by saying it’s a mistake.

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10 points

Google just maliciously makes their websites work way worse on Firefox. For YouTube I personally just use FreeTube on desktop and Tubular (A NewPipe fork) on Android so I never have to interact with that goddamn website

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3 points

As someone who uses tubular I wish it got updated more tho. The number of debug versions I have installed from pull requests is like 5 at this point 😭

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29 points

Mozilla’s slowly creeping in the surveillance with adding integrated crap like Pocket and AI driven Fake Spot. I’m really glad Librewolf’s made a privacy focused fork of their browser without all that nonsense.

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6 points

a lot of sites are unusable with librewolf for some reason

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A lot of sites? Or more like just a few? Personally, the ratio of working vs broken sites is like 100 to 1 and when a site is broken, its usually one of those shit pile SEO listicle sites or some absolute trash heap of ads. Every time I’ve disabled the protections I’ve regretted it.

A lot of the web is useless trash nowadays and Librewolf has done a good job of filtering that for me.

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Related announcement: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attribution

TLDR: Mozilla wants your data and it’s opt out. If you’re on FF 128 it’s already on and you will have to turn it off manually. Shame how they have fallen this low. The LEAST they could have done is show a pop up announcement when the user upgraded to 128.

Also: +1 to Librewolf. Mozilla is definitely going to try more scummy crap like this in the future. Definitely the better option over Firefox.

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Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I just read that whole article and it sounds like a good implementation? Companies want to know how effective their ads are, and I like their approach of trying to find a way to provide this without wholesale personal data collection. They even say at the end that they don’t get the data either. It sounds like a reasonable thing to try and standardize.

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I’m not commenting on implementation itself but rather on how Mozilla went about with an opt-out approach into the collection program (even if it was for testing) to a community they have cultivated with the promise of privacy.

Collecting my data is a big deal. It doesn’t matter how it is used. I should at least consent to it.

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12 points

Can’t wait for ladybird to come out! Finally something that speaks our language.

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5 points

I think Servo is a better option, it’s also being written in rust.

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5 points

Damn, 2026. I hope you CAN wait.

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3 points

I’ve read the announcement. Sounds reasonable and sufficiently private to me. So saying “Mozilla wants your data” sounds misleading and like an overreaction to me. Also might help to mitigate the arms race in privacy protection versus tracking for ads and worse stuff.

Mozilla is definitely going to try more scummy crap like this in the future.

How do you know that?

Even if, there will still be alternatives. But right now, Firefox is the best browser with regards to privacy and security. It even passed minmum ratings by the german IT security authority, contrary to other widely used browsers.

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3 points

Respectefully disagree. Reasonable would’ve been making it opt in, not opt out and justifying it with “would be too difficult to explain”.

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2 points

atleast its opt out

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