“WASHINGTON (AP) — A judge on Monday ruled that Google’s ubiquitous search engine has been illegally exploiting its dominance to squash competition and stifle innovation in a seismic decision that could shake up the internet and hobble one of the world’s best-known companies…”

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I sincerely hope they get broken up.

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Thoughts and prayers. (I don’t even know if I’m being sarcastic anymore)

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Betchu they’ll just send a check of 1 B to the FTC and say “that should pay the fine + interest” then go on with their day. Happened in a similar fashion before.

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Happy cake day. Yes, I‘m afraid that could happen. We‘ll see.

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The funny thing is that this probably screws Reddit more than anyone. Obviously fuck 'em but funny either way.

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Sure, but if the argument is that Google is paying to be a monopoly then they’re going to have to stop payment.

Google allegedly paid $60 million for access to Reddit for AI purposes. Reddit then disallowed access to all other providers, unless they can promise they won’t use the data for AI purposes.

Technically Reddit is the one disallowing access, but if the argument is that Google is paying for special access I don’t see why I wouldn’t extend to AI.

Reddit now needs to either argue their data is some special intellectual property worth $60 million or is at a price point more accessible and it sure as shit won’t be $60 million.

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76 points

The punishment will be less big than the profit, they won’t stop, as usual.

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If the fine is not large enough to impact their business then breaking the law will be a normal business decision and fines a simple business expense. It’s already like that.

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64 points

Shatter the company like glass.

They are insanely huge. They should be 10 different companies.

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At least ten, and maintain no logs on their users. All previous logs must be purged and rendered irrecoverable.

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Or even better, Google could buy the US government

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Alphabet is 10 different companies. Google is one of them.

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Google is Alphabet.

This distinction is meaningless. It is like arguing that Facebook isn’t a company anymore and Meta is a totally new institution.

It’s Facebook. It’s Google.

Its FAANG companies not MAANA companies.

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Even if the punishment is largely symbolic and Google only pays a tiny (compared to it’s massive size) fine; I’d still call that a significant win.

  • Google can be REQUIRED to give users A CHOICE of Search Engines.
  • Google can be FORBIDDEN from giving their OWN ENGINE an advantage in search results or advertising
  • Google can be FORCED to ALLOW THIRD PARTIES access to the SAME APIs used in Chrome and Chromium.
  • Google can be FORBIDDEN from BLOCKING THIRD PARTY FRONTENDS from using Google Search, Youtube and more.
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Google can be REQUIRED to give users A CHOICE of Search Engines.

Don’t they, err, already do this?

I mean a search engine is literally just a website and absolutely nothing prevents you from just going to duckduckgo.com or bing.com or wherever. Don’t think Chrome prevents you from accessing other search engines in general, and last time I used it (admittedly a while back) it had a setting to change the search engine used by default if you just typed something into the address bar.

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Don’t they, err, already do this?

No, They don’t. They have stolen that initial choice from you by paying companies to be the “default” choice. They do this to capture those who are lazy or indolent about their choices, or to entrap those who are too un-savvy to change the preference.

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You do know there’s a big difference between a “default” option and a “mandatory” setting, right? Specifically that you do, in fact, have a choice to change a default?

Not forcing the user to proactively make a choice is not the same thing as denying the user the ability to choose.

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