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my main problem is I compare life now to in the US in the 50’s through 90’s instead of the dark ages.

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When I do that, I think about medicine in general and dentists in particular. Our age wins here. Though I don’t know, maybe regular folks in the US can’t afford medical and dental help, so it doesn’t matter to them.

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Yeah I don’t see much change dental wise. Its again sorta gotten bad since 2000. Flouridation had a big effect but finding an independent dentist as a doctor whose main interest is the health of your teeth and mouth seems to be harder and harder. Now we have these corp things that feel shady as fuq. The US is a bit strange in that we had obamacare and like right after things got much better but then the mandate was kicked out and that upset the balance of pay with insurance companies and then we allow corps to own insurance and provider and pharmacy and hospitals. but then biden got the no surprise billing thing. its been a bit of ping pong but since the millenium. I mean technical advances always are better as time goes by but of course if they are not available or guaged so much they are not (something as basic as insulin) thats not really better.

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I would imagine that those starving bricklayers in Africa know the value of what they have, are grateful to have it, and would gladly share it with anybody they felt needed it more than them. Their life is probably difficult at times — whose isn’t? — but they have family, friends, and community who look out for them, because in the end they know they have nothing without each other.

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I have read in the past that depression is very rare in Africa.

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You deleted your comment but I read it and I appreciate the context, thanks.

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BS. They literally risk their own and their children’s life to emigrate to somewhere where they have a fighting chance not to starve. Like crossing the Atlantic Ocean in dinghies

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I have no doubt that there are those who wish to (and do) emigrate to other countries for more opportunities. I also have no doubt that there are those who stay and are happy living the lives they have, despite being impoverished. They are not mutually exclusive.

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5 points

Are you thinking of Cuba?

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65 points

Alienation from labor and isolation from your community cannot be solved through pleasure and consumption

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… Bet.

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Productivity has risen as well. Anon likely has a mind-nunbing job that produces more economically in a year than a village or two of those ancestors would have.

Keynes famously predicted in 1930 that his grandchildren would only need a 15 hour workweek as technology would allow people to work less. Many others predicted similar throughout the 1900’s. When you look at a household perspective, Keynes was writing in a time when huge populations of women were expected not to work already.

What we see now is that it is incredibly rare for multi-adult households to have singular incomes. For the household, the 40 hour workweek might have actually grown to 80. Or more, as individuals engage in gig work or get 2nd or 3rd jobs. Plus forced overtime is becoming an issue, and of course wage theft.

Wages have stagnated while productivity has increased. Pensions (and unions) are gone (at least in the US). Inequality is constantly increasing - the rich use their power to get richer while the poor are stuck getting poorer.

Anon mentions his freedoms, but neglects to mention he probably spends 50 or more hours a week either working, on break from work, getting ready, commuting. He cannot criticize his employer publicly. An arrest and a night or two in jail could throw him into poverty. Unless, of course, he is rich enough that he doesn’t need to work, in which case simply tossing his name around with he police can often get him out of any trouble.

He mentions healthcare - US life expectancy not, and I do not believe has ever been, 90 years. Maybe for ultra-wealtjy women? Currently the average is 76 years for the whole country. But even then, women live longer than men, and the top-1% of income earners live almost 15 years longer than the bottom-1%. . So if anon is a low-income male, his life expectancy may be in his mid-60’s. Which is comparable to the average life expectancy of the late 1700’s- early 1900’s in Europe.

He has a lot of fancy toys at his disposal, but his life is still being consumed by the wealthy in power.

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US life expectancy not, and I do not believe has ever been, 90 years.

Closer to 80, but even then that’s tilted by youth mortality and chronic health issues (and race and height and gender). But if you’re going strong after the age of 30, you’ve got much better odds of making it to 90 than an infant who hasn’t survived through some of the most dangerous years to be alive. If you’re old enough to be shitposting on 4chan, you’re probably doing well enough to at least think about making it that far.

Anon mentions his freedoms, but neglects to mention he probably spends 50 or more hours a week either working, on break from work, getting ready, commuting. He cannot criticize his employer publicly. An arrest and a night or two in jail could throw him into poverty. Unless, of course, he is rich enough that he doesn’t need to work, in which case simply tossing his name around with he police can often get him out of any trouble.

“Anon” is appropriate. It really is security through obscurity for a lot of Freedom Loving Americans. You’re not protected because you’ve got rights and freedoms. You’re protected because nobody considers your stupid shitposts to be worthy of their time. You’re non-threatening not free.

As soon as police or management or some national security goon thinks you’re a clear and present danger, the game changes significantly.

He has a lot of fancy toys at his disposal, but his life is still being consumed by the wealthy in power.

One might even argue the toys he has were created to distract and alienate him from his peers and neighbors.

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Nobody said he is US… we even have some job security here.

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Look up Maslow’s Hierarchy.

Anon is enjoying every creature comfort the planet has to offer, but they are still missing the entire top half of this pyramid. And you need that to be happy.

Edit: to anyone returning to this thread.

It’s easy to see how the worst mechanisms in our society cut into this model. Not having enough money for basic needs, being too isolated, or not having enough time to yourself, are all issues that track through the very shape of our society and employment issues in general. I don’t have answers for everyone. But it sure is easy to spot the problems.

What I do know is that it’s important to keep trying to fight for your best life and don’t settle for long if your needs aren’t being met. Also, invest in people power even if you have money. After all, you can’t buy friendships, it takes time to build them, you actually need other people to be completely happy, and it’s probably the best safety net you can get.

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thats fucking wild how we live in the same country and yet the top half of this pyramid is ALL i have

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Why is this a screenshot?

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Lemmy won’t let me hotlink images, and I couldn’t be bothered to save and then upload a file. :/

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Here’s how I put images in Lemmy comments:

  • Right-click on the image and copy it
  • Left-click on the text field
  • Ctrl-V
  • Bish bash bosh

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Man it’s wild that I have only really every had the top and the bottom of that pyramid and even then not always.

I wonder what it feels like to have a full sense of self, if anyone even actually has one.

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What I’m doing wrong? I have the top two and 1/2, and I’m missing most of the bottom half? (I’m basically standing on a glass strand, which is constantly on verge of collapsing)

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Funny I used to have those things but then someone that acts like they are God fucked with my life.

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