Why are conservatives so weird when it comes to women playing sports? Like why do they care about their genitals?
Maybe we need to start calling them perverts.
They are so perverted.
Easy way to get arrested by one of said weirdos/perverts. Self-defense isn’t particularly straightforward if you aren’t straight and white.
Honestly, most conservatives are just directing their rage toward whatever conservative politicians and talking heads tell them to direct it at. Conservatism lives and thrives on hate, requiring in-groups and out-groups that must be pitted against one another. The new fad is to care about a person’s genitals.
You see, conservatives don’t believe in gender equality, so someone who isn’t a cis woman will always perform better than cis women, because they believe that women are inherently weak and men are inherently strong, failing to believe that any other form of gender identity even exists.
Except here’s the thing; I’m pretty sure I’ve read this athlete has a vagina, and has had one all of her life. They just don’t understand sex, and how complex it can be.
Imane is literally a cis-gender woman and there’s no evidence that she is intersex, trans, or anything that indicates non-normative chromosome or hormone production.
It is completely fair for her to compete and it’s just right wing people who are trying to claim and decide that she’s not womanly enough to be considered a woman.
There are literally no trans people competing in the Olympics this year and only two non-binary competitors. This is all being posed as if the entirety of the Olympics is being skewed by trans competitors when there aren’t any and this controversy is just being invented for the sake of affirming control over women.
Don’t know if it’s being underreported, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it is … it seems the instigator is regretting the kindling of transphobia paranoia they ignited.
She wasn’t the instigator. People just said what they wanted to say. Her unsportsmanlike conduct was just the gap needed to wedge in some hate.
She definitely knew what she was doing. Carini is a policewoman with connections to the Italian alt right. She was paid 50k after the match by the IBA, the ones that disqualified Khelif in 2023 after winning the gold.
Why does this comment smell like a conspiracy theory? Will read article and delete if this is referenced.
Edit: did not see anything about a payoff there. Got a link showing Russian involvement/payment by chance?
Double edit for rule. Didn’t want to change username. He/him
Probably 90% or even more of the Italian athletes that participate in the Olympics (of anyway compete at higher level in minor sports) are either part of police, carabinieri, “fiamme gialle” (Guardia di finanza) or army. This is just the way it is, since those corps have sport teams which pay a salary.
It is basically welfare, since those people don’t usually have any of the regular duties that policemen etc. have.
Furthermore, I am not even sure what is “Italian alt right”, but anyway I searched in Italian and I couldn’t find a single source that “links” her to any particular political party. Can you provide anything to support your claim?
At the moment it looks like you are spreading misinformation to create hatred towards a single person, not cool.
new rule : https://lemmy.ml/post/18758874
new rule : https://lemmy.ml/post/18758874
Would a 99% Muslim country like Algeria really allow a trans person to represent it at the Olympics? I highly doubt it.
Honestly, I find the whole things reeks of ignorance. I don’t expect everyone to know everything, but I thought Algeria is a well known enough country; and I am surprised that the fact Imane came from there did not clue in everyone as to why she can’t be a transwoman! I am in a discussions group and one person brought up the controversy in the chat. The guy is a boomer and probably fell easily to fake news from social media. I gave the simple response that she’s from Algeria to clue him in, but others had to explain several times why it is fake news that Imane is supposedly a transwoman!
As I grow older, I realise that people can’t know what you know and vice versa. Which is completely fine; but on the one side it shows how each of us are in our own bubble which can have detrimental effects, not just for our own personal growth, but also to the wider society.
I mean Iran recognizes trans women as women and trans men as men. Treats both like shit and is wildly homophobic but it does nominally recognize binary trans people post transition (mid transition is a different story). And Casablanca was at one time a bottom surgery hotspot to a point that a trans person “going to Casablanca/morocco” had an understood reason akin to Thailand today
How are you able to believe that. Is there some sort of concrete evidence that everyone else is missing or is it a gut feeling justification?
The international boxing association Russian president claimed that the DNA results showed two athletes had xy chromosomes but never published the results. That claim only came after Imane, an Algerian boxer, defeated the Russian boxer Azalia, and the claim was used to disqualify Imane’s victory.
Of all the conspiracy theories, isn’t it more reasonable that the Russian president wanted to protect the Russian boxer and made up a reason to DQ Imane to ensure that his home country wasn’t stained by a loss?
So we’re past the strawmans and they are just going full Don Quixote now?
Sabine Hossenfelder did a video on trans women in sports, and despite her checkered history of non-physics related topics, she raised some good points. ( on YouTube )
Hossenfelder she points out, whether we’re looking at college sports, pro sports or the Olympics, we’re less seeking fair competitions as we are interesting ones. (As she notes, it’s not fair that Usain Bolt got long legs and she didn’t), as a result we sometimes separate contestants into classes. Boxing, for instance, is separated not just by sex, but by three weight classes, because otherwise, the 120kg mountain of pure muscle punches all the featherweights over the ropes.
What we’re looking for when matchmaking is the same that we are when we match-make for gaming competitions, which is to say near-peers where the outcome of a contest is closely undecided, where we are unable to guess with much accuracy who would win until after the outcome. And in today’s athletic classes we’re able to categorize trans women with other athletic women who are near-peers and get exciting contests where the outcome is unpredictable.
Hossenfelder suggests all this is going to change once it becomes routine to genetically engineer our offspring. But that will be another era.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r6Kau7bO3Fw
I think there’s another one of these videos too. Don’t trust anything she says outside of physics. She’s a physicist, but she confidently speaks on issues she has no knowledge on. She’s a bad educational YouTube because she lies and pretends like she has knowledge she doesn’t have.
This YouTube also has a great video about Sabine’s pro-capitalism video where she is varifiably wrong about many things but just doesn’t care. She’s not reliable, except maybe within her field… possibly.
Sorry, but after her Trans care Video I don’t have a single ounce of respect left for her. Surely you can find better people to quote here?
