So they got all that money from Uncle Sam’s CHIPS Act only to lay off 10,000 employees and make themselves “lean”. Govt funded unemployment.

47 points

Probably just keeping the staff needed to replace all the 13th and 14th gen CPUs.

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I really hope they plan on fixing the problems with those generations. 🤞

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They aren’t fixing shit since the problem is unfixable

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The problem is fixable in microcode -if- it hasn’t already caused damage to the CPU. Most CPUs are fucked.

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16 points

I suppose I should’ve phrased it as, compensating. Seeing as they are still being sold.

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134 points

You know they pocket those subsidies when this happens.

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93 points

Right to the pockets of the least useful in the company - the executives.

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16 points

I’ll have you know they deserve that money for doing a job no one else wants! Talking to other executives! /s

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17 points

That’s…wait. That’s actually a decent point. Imagine being around the scummiest, fakest people in the world 24/7. I couldn’t deal with it.

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And here’s where I say - what does an executive actually do? And someone will inevitably say something asinine about “risk” and “game changing decisions” and “meeting with investors.”

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8 points

I’d rather they try and put a random janitor in the CEO seat for a year and see what happens.

Couldn’t be any worse than the current shit stain.

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The risk bit is self-evidently bullshit. Executives are the last to suffer when things go wrong. They can tank the whole company through greed and incompetence, and still collect their salaries of millions plus even bigger bonuses, before walking into a similar position somewhere else. It’s the employees that shoulder the risk.

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It’s always the boot lickers saying they. CEO used to be THE guy in charge. It used to be someone who knew the company and worked their way up. McDonnell Douglas/Boeing used to have engineers in charge. Same with GE. Then Jack Welch came along and destroyed that entire ideology.

He was the one that opened the door to late stage capitalism, at least in the USA. It’s hilarious how these companies piece meal themselves off acting like they did something for short term gain. Meanwhile, the Japanese, Chinese, and European companies are happy to buy all this knowledge as they are still playing the long game rather than the MBA clown show.

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what does an executive actually do?

According to conservatives, they trickle all over the rest of us. Isn’t that nice of them?

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And here’s where I say - what does an executive actually do?

I just see them as a figure head for the people really in charge. We are now focused on dumb ass CEO decisions or announcements instead of the board voting to ship jobs overseas or something else terrible.

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If you watch these companies they all want to be tech giants when they have no reason to do so. They hire tech execs from the giants thinking they’ll make some great business hybrid withithe help of the tech execs,but you know what? Sometimes a brick is just a brick.

Two things happen, the tech execs lead them on a wild goose chase since they have no idea how to function in a different industry and people get fired, or the CEO is scared and ignores the suggestions to follow the same thing every other company does and people get fired

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17 points

They only made 50 billion dollars of profit last year. Won’t anybody think of the shareholders

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Idk about other subsidies but they’re probably not getting any CHIPS Act funds with this sort of behavior.

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266 points

Prepping for all those spicy class action lawsuits coming their way.

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60 points

I’m rather OOTL with intel. Mind giving me a short summary? What’d they do this time?

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9 points

They sold fairy high end processors. They took like 3 months to fix the issue. Processors that were damaged will remain damaged. I think Intel will replace them though.

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This saga has moved fast so I don’t blame you, just an FYI Intel has issued a statement saying the microcode update “will” fix all affected CPUs (it won’t, because the damage is physical) and will not be issuing a recall.

We are witnessing one of the more obvious end-game states of capitalism. Intel continues to state they don’t give a single shit about this issue, and will not do anything about it.

The corporate nihilism will continue until the collapse. More and more companies will act like this because why does anything matter when we can profit more today?

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IIRC they sold and shipped 2 generations of CPUs that were essentially defective and unrepairable.

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79 points

A bug or whatever in their 13’th and 14’th gen CPU’s makes them slowly but permanently degrade and cause crashes. Intel have not been handling the issue as you would hope since the discovery. Denying, downplaying, refusing a recall, refusing extended warranties, the lot. Now the lawsuits are cooking.

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Ooo spicy… I’ll have to keep an eye on that.

Thanks!

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160 points

Not sure a short summary will cut it.

They had no competition for a long period and ended up with an accountant CEO that caused their R&D to stagnate massively. They had a ton of struggling and failing to deliver all in most areas, and they wombled about releasing CPU generations with ~4% performance uplifts, probably saving a few bucks in the process.

AMD turned back up again with Ryzen and Epyc models that were pretty good and and an impressive pace of improvement ( like ~14% generational uplifts ) that caused them such a fright that they figured out they had to ditch the accountant.

Pat Gelsinger was asked to step up as CEO and fix that mess. They axed some obvious defective folks in their structure and rushed about to release 12th generation products with decent gains by cranking the power levels of the CPUs to absurd levels, this was risky and it kind of looks like they are being bit with it now.

Server CPU sales are way down because they are just plain uncompetitive. They have missed out on the chunk of money they could have got from the AI bubble because they never had a good GPU architecture they could leverage over to use. They have been shutting down unprofitable and troublesome divisions like the Optane storage and NUC divisions to try and save money, but they are in a bad way.

The class actions mentioned elsewhere in the thread are probably coming because the rush to make incremental improvements to 13th generation and 14th generation CPU’s resulted in issues with power levels and other problems that seem to be causing those CPU’s to crash and sometimes fail altogether.

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76 points

What is it with accountants being chosen as CEO? Like if you were a competent accountant, you should be CFO, and the CEO is someone who knows what the fuck the company sells and how it profits, which I can guarantee you has never been a competent accountant.

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28 points

Don’t forget the potential oxidation issues.

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5 points

A case study for the generations

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94 points

You’re probably right, the generation 13&14 will be riddled with lawsuits.

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14 points

I feel like they have the farm bet on Falcon Shores and (to a lesser extend) the Xe line now, and of course the foundry.

It’d be great if the bad rumors and delays would stop… yeah…

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Seems like a great time to buy AMD, ARM and QUAL

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ARM and Qualcomm aren’t really involved with AI, and AI only makes up 15-20% of AMD’s revenue. Nvidia the one to watch out for, an entire 85% of their revenue is just AI and Mellanox. The Nvidia pump has been insane.

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Nvidia’s AI gambit is at least diversified to different kinds of AI. Even if (or probably when) LLM AI taps out, Nvidia will likely also be behind the AI tech that takes its place.

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