• Ukraine destroyed columns of waiting Russian soldiers with HIMARS, a Ukrainian commander said.
  • He said Ukraine targeted them as soon as it got permission to use allied weapons across the border.
  • Military experts say Ukraine’s ability to use Western-supplied weapons in Russia is aiding its fightback.
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Striking those Russian oil and gas facilities really seemed like the thing that made actual impact. But that damaged global trade which America wasn’t a fan of.

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Sounds like a win/win then.

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Ukraine has both tactical and strategic plans for striking Russian oil and gas facilities. Strategically it’s important to hit these facilities as reducing output results in a long term slowdown in Russia’s ability to wage war on its neighbours. Tactically it’s a way of both boosting Ukrainian morale and also (most interestingly) forcing the US to help resupply Ukraine.

By reducing Russian production, Ukraine is pushing up oil and gas prices which affects the World and, more importantly, the US economy. Due to the US election cycle, inflation is a hot button topic in the US ATM and the Biden administration will do just about anything it can to reduce its impact on the upcoming Presidential election.

It’s entirely valid to conclude that the Ukrainian’s can bring pressure on the US to provide military aid by attaching Russian oil and gas assets.

Let me be clear: I’m on the side of the Ukrainians.

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I support Ukraine too but throwing Ukrainian soldiers into the meat grinder is a lost cause.

What Russia does care about (and needs to keep their invasion going) is money. Which Russia mostly makes from their oil and gas.

So America not allowing Ukraine to hit Russia where it actually hurts means Putin has no reason to agree to a ceasefire. His money keeps flowing and he can keep his war economy going.

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I’m not following. The first part makes sense, but wouldn’t driving gas up make Ukraine less popular and less likely to get US aid?

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That’s a good question. The answer lies not so much about the general popularity and sympathy for Ukraine but rather the amount of pressure Ukraine can exert on the the present US administration to leverage more military aid.

The Ukrainians are aware of the level of sympathy they have in the US as the plucky underdog in this conflict. Striking oil and gas targets deep inside Russia doesn’t diminish this but rather underlines and reinforces the situation. However, reducing the supply of oil and gas impacts the price of oil and gas and has a knock on effect on inflation.

The majority of Americans don’t consciously make that connection, they just feel the pinch in their hip pocket. For better or worse inflation is commonly viewed as domestic issue and this is reinforced by the retoric of those on the right of US politics. So, for many inflation is Joe Biden’s fault.

Therefore, by attacking these targets or threatening to, the Ukrainians can bring the very real pressure on the Biden administration. The President has to continue to show support to the Ukrainians (both moral and materiel) while attempting to rein in the Ukrainians ability and desire to strike deeply at oil and gas targets in Russia.

It appears that this delicate balancing game is ongoing with the US administration pressuring their opponents in the Congress to back down on defunding the Ukrainians while at the same time convincing the Ukrainians to back off a little and focus more on military targets.

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“Destroyed"? Don’t you mean “killed” columns of Russian soldiers? Even if they are in the wrong, these are still lives that are lost, not some equipment.

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Not sure, I heard they’re actually orcs

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In the military it’s common to talk about groups of soldiers the same way you talk about equipment. Because the crucial information isn’t their humanity, it’s their utility to the war effort. “Destroyed” is usually used to mean a unit is so broken it must be combined with other units and different militaries have different definitions of exactly how many casualties that takes.

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“So sad that the Ukrainian government cares so little about it’s people it is giving Russia an excuse to demolish Ukraine.”

- Some Israel Supporter, probably

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I’m waiting for these wars to finally come full circle and for Israel to start selling Russia weapons it got from the United States on the cheap.

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Fuck russia. Kill the blyats.

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Good. Make Russian civilians see the horrors of the war they support personally.

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Saw this video on my feed which uhhhhh NSFL (Death) https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1805588024803074447

Also lmao at everyone condemning Hamas but Russian civilians being targeted gets them cheering.

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I’m sorry that this is the best job you can find right now. It can’t be a very fun job. But you are also kind of bad at it, you should at least try to make the post sound like a real human could possibly think the things that are said.

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It’s funny because you are still allowed to post these shit takes, but if you switched Hamas and Russia you’d be banned from .ml at light speed.

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Did you notice the guy above me wishing bad things to happen to civilians or you just wanna keep ignoring that.

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How close to the port is that beach?

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How close to the military bases were those Kibbutzes?

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Proximity doesn’t matter, the beach is in the flight path so it could be anywhere between the launching point of the missile and the target

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Russian civilians weren’t targeted, the missile was intercepted by russian air defense on its way to a military target. The shrapnel happened to fall on that beach.

Edit: If you’re thinking of holidaying in an active warzone, perhaps reconsider.

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That was an ATACM missile with a cluster bomb warhead. Not “shrapnel”.

Edit: If you’re thinking of holidaying in an active warzone, perhaps reconsider.

So you’re saying israelis holding a rave next to a concentration camp should have reconsidered their location on Oct7?

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“Targeted”. (Likely just an intercepted missile)

They’re on a fucking beach, on illegally occupied land, during an active war. I’m pretty sure they knew the risk.

Play stupid games, grow 🌻

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So you’re saying Hamas has the full right to target any israeli because they are illegally occupying Palestinian land and putting the Palestinians in a concentration camp?

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Last thing I remember yesterday many condemned Israel for announcing it’s land development program that is gossiped as planned on occupied territories. Today there were news of a shitbag minister who voiced a plan to take the West Bank under a military rule (and to convert it into profits?), and I don’t see many support to him there as well. Would it be too cynical to ask wtf these settlers would be doing there?

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Condemning israel is like condemning Russia when they kill civilians. Rather easy. Of course people were praising israel initially but we’re past that.

The fun part is now the Ukrainan resistance is doing what the Palestinian resistance was doing and asking why people react so differently.

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Ukraine is fighting to survive.

Yes that’s what Hamas is doing. They are in a far more precarious spot than Ukraine too. Israel was committing Genocide in Gaza far before Oct7. Which makes the comparison wrong.

Russia is comparable to israel. Invading and annexing land by killing people. Hamas is the party resisting occupation just like Ukraine.

If we put the double standards away everyone would start condemning Ukraine right now like they were/are condemning Hamas. Using cluster munitions on civilians is not a great look. What’s different? How the media sells the story?

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I mean those are some stupid russians to be chilling on the beach at the edge of an active war zone

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