So my last TV I bought I pretty much woke up, drank a coffee, walked to the tech store that isn’t around anymore and got pretty much what I needed and went home happy and had a TV.

Either it is me in general but I hate having to upgrade tech nowadays. Even if it is just a friggin’ smart phone I tend to go to deep into the subject and go through points I shouldnt care about because I’m not the target audience.

Like I don’t care how great the cameras are now on phones. Yet when I have to upgrade duo to missing upgrades after 5 years I upgrade and then I read through all that non sense just to get the best out of the money I’ll be dumping for features I won’t ever use.

Ill compare Samsung S23, S23+ and Ultra and what ever and then read comments about how bad X is and company Y does better for the money and then it’s to late.

Then I dump 12 hours into researching on youtube, trying to filter the company fanboys and the real talk people just to find out they are all “bought” and only 5% of the reviews aren’t bought.

Now I am sitting here wanting to upgrade my 2011 TV and have to choose between LG G4, Samsung S90D, S94D, S95D and every single one of these tvs has negatives and pros and I am lost.

Might not just buy a tv and go drink coffee and play computer.

I personally would have went with the S95D from Samsung because I personally like matte screens more but funny enough most reviews critics are because it is a matte display and not glossy lol. I have huge windows behind my sofa and thought it might be cool but now I am not sure anymore duo to almost everyone saying how bad matte screens are for OLED TVs.

The dude in the shop said I should go with the S95D because it is cool if I have a lot of light sources and yes it has it’s downsides because of the matte screen really bright scenes can create a “white cone” around the edge duo to matte screening but he also said it’s something you won’t notice or pay attention too when using it. I am not comparing G4, S90D and that TV when watching a movie.

I also don’t watch a lot of TV at daylight but when I do I know reflections are annoying. And I also saw that the S95D performs great in the dark as well against other glossy OLED TVs even if it has a matte screen.

This again is probably a subject I shouldn’t care about. It’s like my TV right now is just displaying grey instead of black and I lived with it 12 years (happy). Either TV will be a huge upgrade for me. I could just save my time and buy the tv and be happy but no, I am here researching way to long for a friggin’ TV. I am so deep in the TV subject now that I even know the S90D Series has a Panel Lottery because some TVs have OLEDs and some have QD OLEDS panels… like… honestly, if no one told me I would have been happy without QD panel and wouldn’t have known but now that I know… dunno not gonna buy.

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Then I dump 12 hours into researching on youtube

There’s your problem!

Notebookcheck for phones and laptop is god tier. RTIngs is great for TVs.

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From what I’ve experienced the newer TVs aren’t built for longevity. That’s been a real disgusting revelation. I mean… FFS… you’re expected to shell out a ton of cash but you can’t have the peace of mind that it’ll be there in working order 7 years from now. And even expecting that… There’s almost an air about it that “what do you expect… it’s been 7 years, upgrade!”

So I feel you. Sorry for the rant.

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Yeah probably keeping my currently well running 2011 TV in the basement lol.

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I managed to find a 65" 1080p Non-smart TV with a VERY feint line on the right quarter-inch of the edge of the screen. (the blue pixels only) Lady said she’d take $75. I never got money out of my wallet so damn quick. Been happy with it for years. I wouldn’t upgrade unless I had the money to plop down on a very large commercial display that didn’t have any of the smart features.

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This is the main thing I’m afraid of when our TV gives up. Nowadays you can’t buy non smart TVs anymore :(.

And the smart shit is always in the way. I just want it to turn on when the HDMI signal tells it to and show what my Chromecast or computer is showing. I don’t want to first need to find the remote to click away all the advertisement.

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When I bought my Chiq, the local tech who services them said that they’ll last a long time if you don’t crank the brightness all the way.

That may hold true for other sets as well.

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I’ve not met anyone who enjoys buying things these days. Reviews aren’t trustworthy, and even as I type this my hands burn from using a (checks notes) standard web browser app (Firefox, Android) - possibly my own fault for using Blokada VPN but iirc I’ve shut it off before and the issue still persists. On a Samsung Galaxy S22 for fucks sake!?!?!?

My next phone will probably be either a Fairphone, dumb phone (except I really need Google Maps rarely but occasionally), or maybe I’ll get a pihole (or sth) on my home network and buy an iPhone, except I don’t want to pay premium prices for just a handheld web browser attached to a phone and Maps device.

Anyway, companies don’t sell what we want, only what they can extort from us to buy. If we don’t like that then… well no, that’s it, we have no choices between “become god-tier expert in every subject that we might ever want to make a purchase in, even once a decade”, and “we enslave ourselves to the whimsy of chance to do with us what it wills”.

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If you need google maps mostly in the car then my dad has been very happy with an external devise only for maps and gps, no need for a subscription, no need for internet, etc.

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I would think the map would need to be refreshed at some point, as new roads are built and such, but possibly that can be done manually somehow or at worst a trip to a mechanic.

But for me I sometimes need a device while traveling to another city I’ve never been to before. I suppose a laptop would mostly work.

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Yeah, like once a year or so my dad takes it home to the PC with him, connects it through a USB cable and puts an update on it.

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You can just buy something like a used s10e and install a custom rom (without gapps) and osm (if specifically maps isn’t required). It makes a practically dumb phone with a browser plus maybe some apks.

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That’s a great idea. I almost bought an A22 but it took ~6 whole seconds after pretty much any button press to respond (I thought no way, but confirmed at a store first and it was true) - some kind of horrible software update that has since been corrected iirc and thought I needed something reliable so I spent more for the more premium phone.

My S22 is pretty much the only device I’ve ever gotten that works as they seem to have intended it but I actually regret purchasing. I hate Samsungs now, based on this experience. Maybe it’s bc I didn’t go big enough for the S22+ that cools better, more likely it’s bc I won’t make a Samsung account and this is their way of punishing me, by constantly checking a thousand times a second for if I’ve done that yet - in that case maybe I can root this one and get a whole second, better life out of it!?

I’ve had a replaced OS on a Nexus 5 as my daily driver before and loved it, but in general I’m very hesitant to do that with a non-Google phone that I NEED to function as my only phone. Except nowadays Google phones are only super-premium cameras attached to the shittiest specs I’ve ever seen on such an expensive phone.:-(

For my work I travel very rarely, sometimes not even once a year, but I don’t want to be in a city I’ve never been in before without a reliable phone, maps, even an app to schedule an Uber (unethical company issues aside), plus subway/train/bus connection apps. Likewise if I have a 5-year-old phone (w/ 5-year old battery) that gives out on me halfway through the day… so then I’m looking at either carrying a giant charger block and spending time at an outlet, or getting like a second battery replacement thingy to swap out, either way an extra hassle.

Phones didn’t used to be this way. My Nexus 5 would last all day, especially if I had a charger at work, and while I guess I did buy it at half price as it was discontinued, even the original price wasn’t a fucking thousand dollars like phones are today.

But there’s definitely all kinds of non-premium phones out there, if only the reviews could be trusted or we roll the dice and hope it lasts a little while.

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Just warning you, US samsungs and BBK phones (excluding oneplus) aren’t oem unlockable and mi unlock requires a phone number. Not all apps work without gapps (uber(I think), google apps, software requiering play integrity). I also reccomend buying a decently performant phone for osm. It crashes a lot on my redmi 4x, while on mi 11 lite it works great.

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They also don’t last. I’ve bought 6 flat screens since 2006. 4 have died, all in the second year of ownership. 3 of those died on month 13, 1 month after the warranty. 1 of those died the day after the warranty expired…

I swear they plan for them to die right after warranty or I just have the worst luck. Doesn’t matter if I spend $500 or $3000+ on name brand. I started saving money on the last two that died by insuring them. At this point I’m just leasing them until they die.

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I am still mad about a horrible botched update on a Vizio TV that I bought back in 2017.

Turns out the fix was to call customer service and listen to them for an hour until they finally sent you the old firmware so that you could downgrade it, but until they sent me that and I went through that rigmarole pressing the source button would take an honest 15 seconds just to show the sources, it was so laggy and horrible that it just murdered me to use

That being said, after getting the fix it has been a good dumb TV. I run an old laptop I got from a pawn shop for $50 through it and it does all of the media viewing that I need.

Whatever TV I get I will not be connecting it to the internet. I probably won’t buy a Vizio again, not going to get an LG or a Samsung, don’t really know what my choices are but I’ll figure it out when I get there

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The one that didn’t die right array was also a botched update. Never got the firmware over email (Hisense). Vizio, Sony, and Samsung were the ones that died right after warrenty.

I use an external media box so I don’t update them anymore.

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Check with your credit card if you bought it that way. A lot of them offer warranty extensions that can double warranty length (up to an extra year). I’ve used it before once for a camera and it’s a bit convoluted but it works. I think the process for me was to call the credit card company to confirm it would be covered, then getting a repair estimate from an authorized repair place. Then they either approve it and pay for the repair or pay you the original value if the repair would cost too much.

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That is a good point, will have to check my benefits. Thanks!

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If it helps, I’d go for the LG G4. Or C4 if you want to reduce the cost a bit.
I’ve sworn off Samsung, just for the sheer levels of anticonsumer bullshit they pull.
I’ve had my CX off the network for its entire life. The Apple TV handles internet and playing media properly, the TV handles taking an HDMI lead and displaying the picture accurately.
The anti-glare it does have was still miles better than my previous plasma, even though the screen is glossy.

Check out AVForums for TV reviews, and just as a general thing, Which.
Though Which do sometimes struggle with comparing the technical details that matter.

And get it from somewhere that offers a decent warranty. If costco is the same in your area, you get 5 years on TVs so long as you maintain membership.

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I agree with this. I had a slew of Samsung’s and they’ve been getting worse. Post purchase they installed apps that can’t be removed and there’s no space on it already. Ads in the fucking menu system and the tv isn’t responsive like the older models. Fuck Samsung for TVs. They’ve fallen hard.

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