I get spammed by them all the time but have so far resisted and stayed with my crappy, slow, and expensive ADSL provider out of principle. But the ADSL provider just raised prices on me AGAIN and it’s ridiculous.

What do I do? Is Google Fiber as invasive as other Google stuff? What if I just use it to tunnel a VPN to a non-Google endpoint?

This is sure annoying. It occurs to me that Comcrap might be available here as an alternative, but that must be as evil as Google. At least the ADSL company is reasonable about privacy, as such companies go.

Thanks for any thoughts.

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They’re all sucking up whatever data they can. Stick to Https, don’t use their DNS and use a VPN and you should be fine.

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My recommendation:

  1. Write to your politicians and tell them that cables should become provider neutral to increase competition.
  2. Find a cheaper wireless provider and move what can be moved to offline first.
  3. Write your current provider and tell them why you cancel.
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pfsense+vpn all traffic at the router and VPN dns

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OPNSense > pfSense

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They’re all evil man, just use a VPN in Russia all the time to really fuck them

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Living in Russia, a lot of sites do not allow Russian traffic as it is considered to be high-risk.

Good idea to have a backup solution.

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Yeah this is very true but I am trying to realign my more personal non business stuff away from all services like that

Ultimately they will require digital ID. No can do

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Sure! I just mean if you must have a Russian VPN server, you better have it somewhere else as well. Also, practice shows that Sweden or the Netherlands are good destinations for a server. Both are not heavily restricted by sites and don’t care about what you do.

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“they”

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Yes, they. The three ISPs he has to choose from. Context. He’s not going to meaningfully opt out from dealing with the scale of the services Google provides online by choosing slower internet. We have to encrypt our traffic, secure our browsers and devices. And even then they will passively circumvent many of our efforts not to scrutinized.

In the end privacy is for me a way of judging the quality of my connection. But I do need a quantity of that connection, and if I’m going to shield my traffic obsessively anyways I’d pick Google Fiber.

We’re picking between three companies that all collaborate with whatever law enforcement or spy agency comes knocking or visiting.

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I have it, and I’m otherwise de-googled.

  • Use your own router, not theirs
  • Set your router’s DNS to something other than google’s, and use DOH whenever possible.
  • Force all web sites to use HTTPS whenever possible.
  • If you’re extra concerned, use a nailed up VPN, preferably via your router.
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New here, I’ve always used Google’s DNS to get away from my ISP’s. Is there a free alternative that I can switch to?

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1.1.1.1 is cloudflare, whose evilness score is up to you. Better than google afaict but who knows.

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Mullvad has a dns

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AdGuard has a list of trusted DNS providers, which seems like a good source. Many of the ones in that list are free as well.

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