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dude, people wonder why i shit on android constantly, why would you ever produce a product that can just, do shit like this, it’s awful. (to be clear, i hate IOS as much, for the same reasons)

And its only worse with manufacturer flavors of android, samsung loves shipping a bunch of useless apps that you can’t even remove.

and no, i don’t want to hear about rooting. Just call me when you guys figure out how to make an actual OS.

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Your negativity sucks but at least it’s not targeted at anyone. It’s just souring people’s moods.

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the negativity sucks, but android is frankly, deserving of it, especially with how much better IOS is now than it used to be.

Android only implemented MDNS in android 12, OS wide (the only useful implementation of it) a literal decade after microsoft added it to windows

mounting shit like an SMB share is literally impossible, unless rooted. Because fuck you, why would you ever want to mount remote storage on a device known for having super expensive storage, or really shitty storage.

It’s customizable, if all you want to customize is the homescreen, because the lockscreen isn’t trivially customizable.

it’s also a google product, so it comes with the really cool feature of being terrible.

Oh and if you wanted to install apps on the playstore, they’re also all shit. Most of them are paid, and the rest are either ad filled, or malware. Cool, i’ll just use fdroid then. Oh wait it’s just a glorified APK installer…

not to mention androids nonsense file structure and partitioning done by default, as well as it’s wonderfully obtuse .NOMEDIA standard, that doesn’t seem to work properly, and doesn’t fucking implement anywhere.

the ram management is also fucking horrid, seeming to only unload apps entirely, but arguably that’s more of a problem with apps taking literal gigabytes of ram to load fucking text on the screen just so you can read someone making a your mom joke.

People talk constantly about how amazing the technical leap from PDP11s to iphones was, yet we seem to be regressing in the software space faster than germany during the hitler arc and it fucking baffles me how.

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Whats wrong with fdroid? Glorified apk installer. Ye…es? What else should an app store do?

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I think it would be a more constructive use of your time to find solutions to your problems or to just switch to a dumb phone and carry a netbook around just live a less stressful life.

Complaining and doing nothing about it doesn’t fix anything and it even makes things worse. Manufacturers love to hear a customer resign to complacency even when they’re dissatisfied. It shows them just how far they can push their users around for profit.

Generally most people at a company wants to do good in their respective roles but as a company the choice between user choice and more profit is obvious, higher-ups want to be good at their jobs too.

Whenever you see an opportunity always prove to the company why the things you care about could make them money or help them gain more users weather that’s voting with your wallet, creating better alternatives, or rallying people up to peacefully boycott and or protest.

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I, too, just want Linux phones to take off already. We’re this far in the future and I still don’t really have a “computer in my pocket” so much as a “specialized commerce and consumption device that can occasionally be made to do useful things.”

Android feels like the whole OS was made to be telemetry and advertiser friendly. I just wish I could have that “It’s my device” feeling in my pocket like I do on my desk.

Your complaints about Android are valid, and I think there’s fewer people who are actually “android enthusiasts” vs "It’s what we’ve got right now"ists lol…

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this seems like a good situation to hear about rooting but go off

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it seems good, until you realize it’s a nightmare process that only works on “most phones” requiring some kind of crackpot technique pulled straight from someones ass that happened to work.

only to get moderately more access to googled android and oops, it’s still mostly shit. Oh good, i can probably just install an android derivative, and oops, it’s also mostly dogshit, just less worse and more annoying.

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I did not have any problems installing LineageOS on my Galaxy at all and it solves most of the issues you listed. Helps with battery life etc. It’s not just mostly degoogling.

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conversations 🥰

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My phone likes to gaslight me and not even show the battery that my system services are taking

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Ha! That’s one of the reasons I switched to a degoogled android phone. The extra battery life is quite noticeable.

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If you use chrome or any chromium based browser, googles still executing any code they won’t on your device at will.

Even if you don’t have chrome, but an app uses a chromium based web view.

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googles still executing any code they won’t on your device at will.

Source?

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It’s in the source code of chromium

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Well I use Firefox on vollaOS. It’s not fully degoogled in terms of apps for sure but I hope change will come.

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Mate everyone uses Firefox here

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degoogled

android

These are mutually exclusive

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Degoogled as in “no code from google present” would require Ubuntu touch etc., but as in “no closed source stuff and no telemetry” is quite easy, using either Degoogled Android or another specific distro.

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Degoogled as in “no code from google present” would require Ubuntu touch etc.

I know what I said :3

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Degoogled means you don’t use any google’s services either?

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I’m using the volla phone x23 which runs vollaOS, an android fork without all those pesky Google background processes. It uses MicroG to simulate them though, since most Android apps expect them now.

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Makes me consider doing that again.

Years ago I had a Samsung Galaxy Alpha and ran LineageOS on it but that just completely fucked the battery optimisation. Did this get better? Better than Google even?

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My last phone with standard Google Android had a 5000 mAh battery while the new degoogled has one with a bit more than 6000 mAh I think. Even then I feel the overall increase in battery life cannot be explained with hardware only. Without watching videos or playing games, I only have to charge my new phone every 3-4 days. And I’ve background apps like syncthing running all the time. I’ve just checked there’s actually a few other open source forks of android other than LineageOS. If you’re disappointed with it.

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I had recently installed Grapheneos on my pixel, with a goal is determining what was responsible for all the senseless Google domains that a pixel normally contacts.

To my surprise disabling Network for the Google Services Framework and Play Services killed all of the nonsense. The only downside was that GSF has the push mechanism in it also, that many apps use for push notifications.

If only there were an alternate for push notifications that all apps would use.

Anyway, Grapheneos runs way cooler than Google’s Malware version.

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I use ntfy for notifications, even on my vanilla Pixel.

The less google services apps you use the less google services needs to run.

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That looks nice, but apps that use GSF for push won’t use that. Or am I missing something on their website?

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Correct, an app has to be built without GSF. That’s why I still use Vanilla Pixel for Google Maps and Android Auto.

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Check out microG: https://microg.org/

I get all my push notifications, apps etc without any actual Google services on my phone. Remote google servers are still used, but in a more (though not fully) anonymous manner.

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Are you using Grapheneos or another ROM?

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I’m using CalyxOS, it comes with microG. I wish graphene supported microG, but they don’t.

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TIL that MicroG is used for more than just getting my Google account to work in YouTube ReVanced.

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No surprise, Play Services is Googles tracking framework on mobile too.

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How’s the picture quality after the switch

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I’m not really the one to ask as I don’t buy a smart phone for a camera. However, it looks good to me and I have a picky eye. And from what I’ve seen, you can use Google Camera on Grapheneos and get the same quality pictures and video.

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I was very disappointed with the (default) Camera after switching to Graphene, luckily you can just download the Pixel Camera (including all the Pixel optimizations) from Play Store on Graphene OS or download it as an APK bundle from some other sites (downloading the normal APK won’t work, it has to be the bundle).

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With Graphene OS there is no Google services at all correct? No android auto?

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It’s sandboxed, but still there. Most stuff should work as normal.

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They made it where you could sandbox all of the Google stuff, and Android Auto works fine too.

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Huh…neat!

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