What are people’s thoughts here? I could understand removing all the lolly flavours and regulating like other tobacco products. I am an ex-smoker but I personally feel like this is govt over-reach. That might be an out-dated mindset of my time & generation (genX), however. So I’m interested to get some insight into how the broader population view this issue, particularly the younger generations, in both an overall opinion, but also in regards to such govt controls of recreational substances vs an individual’s right of freedom to choose.

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I’m a Millennial.

I found the idea of banning vapes to be pretty hypocritical of the government.

Like the idea that we don’t want children getting addicted to nicotine is a good goal to strive towards, However to ban the only source of nicotine dependence that doesn’t get taxed by the government while leaving cigarettes alone felt really dodgy to me.

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As a non-smoker, I find vapes far less obnoxious in terms of odour.

The main problem I had with it all is the waste. Seeing cigarette butts and single use vape cartridge litter the streets makes me mad.

I’m a big fan of do what you want as long as you don’t make it my problem.

Ban cigarette filters, ban single use vapes. The rest I couldn’t care less about.

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Ban single use vapes

I really hope this becomes a worldwide ban. Disposable vapes are hugely wasteful

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Yeah, I don’t see why they shouldn’t be treated exactly like cigarettes.

From October that’ll pretty much be the case, except only purchasable at a pharmacy. I can’t see why they shouldn’t be sold at servos, etc., but I don’t think it’s a massive problem in terms of personal freedoms. It’ll give pharmacies a cash boost, and maybe even cause expansion of their opening hours in some cases, which could be helpful.

In any case, I think that the deal the Greens got is probably the best one Labor were ever going to give.

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I’m not sure I understand the Greens position on vapes. Are they pro-tobacco or something? or is it about creating a black market?

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The Greens have always been against prohibition more broadly, but they can articulate their reasoning better than I can: https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/greens-secure-amendments-vaping-legislation-and-will-support-passage-through

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Thanks for linking that, their position makes a bit more sense now, at least by restricting them to pharmacies there won’t be as much of a black market

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I think now would be a great time to figure out how to 3d print them and profit.

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I agree that it will further worsen the black market surrounding these products (just as the exorbitant ciggie tax has increased the illegal import of cigarettes that are not regulated.) A bunch of businesses will basically be shut down because of this … they can’t exactly pivot to something else. If they wanted to sell cigarettes they would have been doing so already.

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A bunch of businesses will basically be shut down because of this … they can’t exactly pivot to something else

It’s a damn shame too - I don’t know what we’ll do without all those businesses built around exploiting drug addicts

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And that’s a fair point to make but also one that now places Pharmacists in that role.

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Are you saying that vaping is a good thing and a net positive?

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