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I’m trying it, and it does looks nice.

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That’s the state of computing in 2023: a browser disguised as a native app running 15 layers of Javascript is used as a friggin terminal. And nobody bats an eyelids, as if the utter insanity of it made any sense.

And the installer is 117M compressed. That’s MEGABYTES… For a terminal!

The mind boggles…

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I’ve been using Alacritty for the last 4 years, it’s kinda the opposite of this nonsense. It’s written in Rust, it’s super light weight, highly optimised, and uses hardware acceleration to render the terminal. It’s top of the chart for every terminal performance benchmark conceived.

However, that lightness and fastness comes at a cost. There are some basic features they just won’t add because they’re outside the scope of the project. Eg, tabs (“just use a tiling wm and do your own tabs in the wm”) or a scrollbar (“just use a shell with a scrolling screen buffer like Tmux”), or different coloured backgrounds for each opened window (“why would anyone ever want to do that?”).

My holy grail terminal would be something like Alacritty, written in Rust, blisteringly fast and light weight, but with tabs, scrollbar, bookmarks, etc.

I find myself falling back to using Konsole a lot these days, it’s got all the features I want, is fast enough, and already installed on every system I use Plasma on.

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I am using Konsole currently, as it works best in KDE. Should I switch to Alacritty? I like to have one window and the rest in tabs, its pretty great. I guess alacritty doesnt have that right? What all does fit in the config? Konsole has tabs with special descriptors using path, host, program etc. You can change the color scheme, its pretty nice.

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Me too. I just ran time tree across my home directory a few times. Native console (ie C-A-F3) - 54 seconds, Konsole - eight seconds.

Waveterm is still installing (Arch AUR). The fan has a Gentooesque sound to it as a suspiciously complicated thing gets built. Oh God … electon … terminal shaking … golang … fans whining … lap melting … the Old Ones are stirring.

The deps for this thing are many. " I watched Firefox builds on Gentoo glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate". OK, its now arrived and my laptop case is making ping noises as it cools.

It takes 10 seconds or so to start up. Look pretty. Accept license agreement (wtf). Now what? Hmm lets try typing in that box. OK. time tree. Go back to Lemmy to type the last two paras of this comment, get bored and uninstall waveterm.

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You nailed it. Too bloated (300 MB, wtf), too slow, incompatible with zsh and fish, no tiling, too few keyboard shortcuts, and way, WAY too much wasted screen space.

Back to my sweet, sweet Konsole.

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Looks interesting, I will look into it. On first look it seems useful

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“modern”, when it comes to terminals, usually translates to Javascript / web / electron

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Kinda yes, sadly. However, at least they offer some reasoning for it like AI integration with the terminal.

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Do you really need “AI”, when a simple autocomplete/LSP plugin does wonders?

Also, you have to be online for that. Uninterrupted electricity and internet is still a privilege.

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Haha if that would just work

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