Do you think it’s worth keeping 2FA OTPs in a separate source from your password manager? Currently I keep them in Bitwarden. I was thinking keeping them separate could add a little extra security in case my BW was cracked, but not sure it’s worth the hassle of loading a second app for logins.

Do you know of an app that does 2FAs as conveniently as Bitwarden, in that it has mobile apps, browser extension, etc that can all access the same vault?

here’s one i came across from an awesome-selfhosted list. i would need to test the PWA experience https://github.com/Bubka/2FAuth

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i keep my passwords and my OTPs strictly separated.

Don’t keep all your eggs in one basked

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Its really a preference thing for convenience. You’ll still have both your password manager and 2fa on the same device either way. Aegis on another device or user profile is my preferred way if security is a must

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Aegis is the move, my favourite option for sure!

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Yes. If you use bitwarden, even if you pay for premium or host it yourself, don’t keep them in the vault. Don’t sync them over the internet. In case someone somehow gets into your password manager, at least the TOTP secured accounts will (most likely) stay safe. The recovery codes should stay offline and encrypted somewhere safe in your home. You probably also want to secure your BW account with a hardware key such as yubikey for additional security.

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Not trying to be nitpicky, but 2FA only works over internet. Separating these two things has nothing to do with connectivity. Splitting them just give you security through obscurity in most cases because if something like bitwarden were to be compromised, there is almost certainly an overlap that could somehow get you access to other services protected by 2FA.

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I’m pretty sure 2FA can work offline as well. You definitely don’t need an internet connection to perform 2FA with OTP codes.

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No. 2FA as a functional protocol requires internet. No way around that considering the secured source needs to send updates to the app you referenced down to subsecond.

Maybe you’re thinking of TOTP which does have a very small window where offline keys could work?

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I have two separate keepass containers, one for passwords and another for TOTP.

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Same here. Plus I don’t store the KeePass files in the cloud, as service or otherwise.

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At the end of the day it is a matter of preference and convenience. Is it safer to separate them? Absolutely. Is it as convenient as keeping them in one place? Absolutely not.

So, pick your poison. Personally I have my MFA tokens in three separate locations, two self hosted server applications and in a mobile app (2FAS Auth). More for fallback/backup reasons. Having them in my password manager is just too convenient.

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