I have a job I don’t quite like and I’m shooting applications elsewhere. I work full time and I’m also looking for another job in my city that fits my qualifications. I cannot change states or move to another city, it is what it is.

So far I’ve sent 5 apps for positions that interest me: 2 have answered, one could offer me a different but similar job (position already filled) and the other one, while fitting what I majored in, means constant stress, plans that change constantly, even several times a day, a pay reduction and the last 2 who applied to do this quit in 4 and 6 months respectively.

At least they were honest during the interview, but I now feel depressed. I was hoping to work there and quit my current job.

45 points

5 apps with 2 responses, and locally? You’re doing really well. Seriously. It sounds like you are qualified enough to get what you want, and the number of responses already is a very good sign.

Small rant:

My experience: a Ph.D., two years applying through Indeed/LinkedIn/directly, several rounds of professional development to overhaul networking approaches/resumes, maybe 150 applications, and I maybe hear back in a couple months with a form letter rejection. The few interviews I’ve had were either a company looking for a unicorn (or just lying about a position), something that lead to a task-based assessment, or a goddamn AI-analyzed one-way interview which is the biggest red flag.

Tl;dr it’s really bad out there, and you honestly have great results so far, even if it doesn’t seem like it! All the best to you, and I hope you find something you’ll enjoy.

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Your job isn’t your worth or your life. So balance searching with your mental health. If a particular position has burned out two people already you don’t want it unless the money is good enough.

I’d also caution you to be defensive with your time, it takes employers five seconds to send you a test or battery of tests that will take five hours to do, don’t sink an unreasonable amount of time into one or ask for a meeting to get to know the team before committing too much effort - most serious offers will be amenable to that while H1-B fakeouts or “We have an internal candidate in mind” will stone wall you. The job market fucking sucks both because employers are lazy bitches and because the chatgpt resume spam is real - when hiring for a devops our company had hundreds of applications and like three real candidates.

I wish you the best of luck!

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The 2 principles I stick to are.

  1. Job hunting is a numbers game, just like any sales job. Don’t take rejection personally, just move on to the next one.
  2. Don’t get excited about a job until you have a signed contract. Just apply / interview, and forget about it until the next stage happens.

Number 2 is hard to do sometimes, but worth doing whenever possible.

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RE: #2

When interviewing try to show genuine interest in the job and research to ask good questions. Care about it in the moment, then try to emotionally disconnect afterwards

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I spent about a year looking for a job (senior management in cybersecurity), and had basically ZERO luck until I got wise and did the following. Had a new role within 4 months afterwards.

  1. Take your resume, and expand it 10-20x into a massive document listing every single project, accomplishment, or skill you can think of that could ever be potentially relevant in a new role.
  2. Every time you apply to a new job, copy the job posting into a ChatGPT conversation, and have it edit your resume to a 1-2 page document that only includes the experience most relevant to the job posting, and to rewrite sentences to use the exact terminology from the job posting where appropriate.
  3. Once you have the custom resume, use ChatGPT to generate a custom cover letter to include as well.

These 2 changes will cause your resume to get assigned a higher “relevance score” by the AI tool their HR or recruiting team uses to weed through the 400+ applications they receive, which means you’ll be at the top of the list of names that gets delivered to first human in the process (the recruiter).

You’ll actually start getting callbacks and phone screens at that point, which gives you a fighting chance. The rest is up to you.

There are paid services that’ll do this for you (like Teal), but you can do it yourself and with more control as long as you have access to ChatGPT. If you can generate a completely customized resume and cover letter in less than 2 minutes, you can pump out 10 high-quality applications in less than half an hour per day.

Edit: I see you’re getting a 40% response rate. You may be setting your sights too low if that remains consistent. If you’re applying for roles that are a solid step up form where you’re at, you would expect closer to a 10% response rate.

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i’ve been doing this for the last 6 months and haven’t gotten response; so i’m guess ymmv.

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I like the custom-resume-per-job idea, but using AI to generate it is a really bad idea unless you very closely comb through it and edit and clean up things. At that point you may as well just create it yourself.

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The AI isn’t “generating” it - it’s just whittling down from what you provide to it and swapping out synonyms to match the job description. Try it - you shouldn’t need to make any manual edits if the input data and prompt line up correctly.

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13 points

Apply for Civil Service jobs.

You won’t get hired quickly, but the jobs come with great benefits and strong unions.

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Any tips on this? I’ve been out of work for a while

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I don’t know where you live, so I can only tell you what worked in my area.

First, the local library. Near me the main branch has a Job Opportunity Center where they have listings for all the civil service jobs.

The Chief-Leader is a New York City website/printed newspaper that has listings of all Civil Service jobs in the area.

You can contact the state/province Department of Labor and see what they have.

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Thank you very much 🙏

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