16 points
*

This is the inevitable result of infinite growth. You aren’t getting a home in world class locations without being at the very top yourself. Sure other people lucked into the right place and the right time. Go buy lottery tickets. Or set down in location that is more affordable. With any luck you’ll be a multimillionaire when you’re elderly too. And the kids of the year 2060 will hate you for the dastardly plot you schemed up with your friends to ruin everything.

We’re all part of the rat race that is fucking us over. Nobody wants to flinch. So we continue to eat each other alive.

permalink
report
reply
11 points

“Why do we have so many homeless?”

permalink
report
reply
128 points

Get off your ass and get 50+ full time jobs you lazy fucks!

permalink
report
reply
39 points
*

If I keep paying the current $1200 a month to my landlord it’ll eventually trickle down to me. No doubt!

Then with that revenue, I’ll buy my first house!

In reality, I’m almost 28 and I have no delusions about home ownership. Just like retirement!

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

My only hope of home ownership around here is waiting for my parents to die and inheriting one. That said, I keep telling them to sell all their shit, move somewhere cheaper, and retire for fuck’s sake, so we’ll see how that pans out.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Only 1200 a month?

God I wish.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

That’s the going rate for renting a room in someone’s house in my neck of the woods.

permalink
report
parent
reply
42 points

And stop earning avocados.

permalink
report
parent
reply
20 points

Stop eating avocados. Start eating landlords.

Tough to stomach at first, but very good for you and the community.

permalink
report
parent
reply
77 points

Zillow is a part of the problem. With all the data collected and only a few companies, prices are conveniently increasing at extreme rates. It is not just cities; land and rural areas are increasing at high rates.

permalink
report
reply
55 points

The real issue is the commodification of housing. Houses shouldn’t make people money; they are supposed to be homes to live in.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

Nothing wrong with houses as individual investments. Why the hell else would you dump that kinda money and pay ALL the upkeep for decades?! You write the interest off your taxes, have something to show for 30 years of payments when you retire.

Also, nothing wrong with a landlord owning a few homes. He likely ain’t making shit and is taking huge risks. Yes, it’ll pay out someday, hopefully.

The issue is corporate home ownership and, to a lesser extent, B&Bs. Yes, a bank can easily “own” hundreds or thousands of homes. After all, they provide loans and sometimes have to foreclose. But banks renting homes?! Fuck no.

This is easily solvable with legislation, not even “devil is in the details” complexity. We drop the hammer on these corporate landlords, tax the fucking snot out them and run them out of the game. Same goes for entities sitting on real estate, waiting on prices to go up. Tax the hell out of empty homes that have been on the market X days.

The issue is corporate landlords. Rent didn’t used to be like this, it was competitive. My first place was a shithole in college, $250/mo. (I’d happily live there again were I a bachelor.) Same place should be $630. Anyone seen rent that low for anything outside renting a single room in a house?

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Housing as an investment leads to real estate speculation which pushes up prices. It creates a class of people who stand to gain when property values, and downstream of that rent, go up.

This class of people are very wealthy and tend to oppose any action that will decrease there property value. That includes things like building dense affordable housing, especially close to them, as that increases the supply of housing and thus decreases there property value.

This is true especially for land lords, even small “mom and pop” landlords. There goal is to raise rent and the value of there investment. Anything that will lower rent or even stabilize it like rent control they will oppose, no matter their scale.

Tl;dr: housing speculation creates a wealthy class of people opposed to housing affordability.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

This! We have the means to provide housing for everyone but don’t because, fuck you thats why.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

I don’t necessarily agree that people can’t make any money on a property portfolio, but it should definitely have a set limit to prevent life’s essentials from becoming unaffordable. And I wouldn’t stop there and continue this with other essentials like healthy consumables and utilities like power/gas/water and entry level broadband internet access.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

Why not guarantee the basic necessities to all citizens? They pay taxes, after all; it’s just that those tax dollars mostly go to bombing people overseas, funding multiple genocides, overmilitarization of police, corporate subsidies and bailouts, etc.

We can very easilly redirect at least some of those tax dollars to pay for everyones’ basic needs, including, but not limited to: housing, healthcare, food, water, waste, sewage, high speed internet, public transit (like a bus/train pass).

And if we still don’t have enough tax dollars for that, we can very easilly make more than enough by taxing billionaires and corporations at their appropriate rate, getting rid of all loopholes by ensuring there is a tax floor that all corporations have to pay.

Now, the system I am actually in favor of expands upon this idea of social democracy that I described above by forcing all corporations to become worker-owned coops after splitting them up into small businesses (by city, county, or rural region depending on what the locals prefer). This would also have the effect of abolishing the stock market, as the workers would have exclusive ownership of their company that they work for. This would functionally transform the workplace into a democracy. Imagine being able to hire/fire your boss with a vote, or having a say in what your company will be producing. This already exists, and they’re called worker-owned coops.

I would also like a hard wealth cap of $50 million tied to inflation. Nobody needs more than $50 million to have more than a happy retirement, regardless of age.

I believe that money = power, and power leads to inevitable corruption. Therefore, the only logical way to prevent corruption is to prevent people from ever being able to have that kind of power.

Check out Professor Richard Wolff if you want to learn more about this stuff. He’s a doctor and professor of economics with a focus on macroeconomics.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Speaking of which, zillow’s stupid “zestimate” is worthless. Any assclown can put their house up for way too high a price and the zestimate will automatically jump up to match.

Apparently the value is whatever the seller says it is, even if the home has been on the market for over a year (either continuously or repeatedly taken off and put on, I guess to reset the time on market).

permalink
report
parent
reply

A Boring Dystopia

!aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

Create post

Pictures, Videos, Articles showing just how boring it is to live in a dystopic society, or with signs of a dystopic society.

Rules (Subject to Change)

–Be a Decent Human Being

–Posting news articles: include the source name and exact title from article in your post title

–If a picture is just a screenshot of an article, link the article

–If a video’s content isn’t clear from title, write a short summary so people know what it’s about.

–Posts must have something to do with the topic

–Zero tolerance for Racism/Sexism/Ableism/etc.

–No NSFW content

–Abide by the rules of lemmy.world

Community stats

  • 5.3K

    Monthly active users

  • 958

    Posts

  • 19K

    Comments

Community moderators