What will those clever tall bastards think of next?
Imagine what people would do if they were allowed to selectively breed humans
Don’t sperm banks offer selective sperm choices based on intelligence and physical fitness?
One of the “most prolific” sperm donors in Britain is a neo-Nazi. His sperm has been used to bring about over 140 births, but he also spends his free time planning “lone wolf” attacks.
People on 4chan were talking about that sort of thing at least 15 years ago. I think it was on /tg/, if I remember. They were also much more concerned with the trolling/ethical thought of breeding for the brain. What if you bred someone who only had the thought of serving a master?
I think that’s enough evidence for me that selective breeding is horribly fucked in its outcome no matter the original aims, and the closest we should come is eliminating the ‘will kill you’ diseases.
What if curing cancer resulted in the creation of a slave cast. Sounds like a pretty good star trek episode
The amount of times I’ve been blocked on Reddit for pointing out the hypocrisy of humans… Our species really need to be neutered by default, exceptions only for license holders.
Oh sure, having a government body decide who’s fit or not for reproduction. Absolutely nothing that could go wrong with that. /S
True, the design I believe in would only work if people like me would be in control, due to the nature of worldviews being unique to the individual. And the moment hands change over once, is the moment the laws get skewed by the worldview of the next group. I would restrict those who threaten humanity’s progress, who would refuse to educate or vaccinate a child, who would indoctrinate from birth into their gated world. The next person would restrict queerfolk like me. And the next would try to filter humanity into an Aryan race of purebloods.
The theory is there. The practice is improbable. But the lack of practice results in the Chinese, Russian or American governments and their followers. Those who would, and do, filter us out.
We as a species spent so, so long learning the painful lesson that eugenics is an awful idea. Can we please not relitigate it? That is, can we please not shift the Overton window back to the ideology that directly led to and inspired the Holocaust?
That’s the thing. I believe, if handled correctly, progress could be made with eugenics. But I agree, my views are radical and by definition not fit for standard policy or any teaching format.
My definition of non-innocence is someone who has caused physical or emotional harm to another living being with malicious intent, regardless of provocation. Cruelty is the intent to repeat. This is the base for my laws of morality.
Fuck off with this.
German wolf hounds (large dogs, full snouts, etc.) live maybe 8 years total.
My pug dog lived 15 years, died of cancer, and never had trouble breathing during those 15 years.
If you google “name of dog breed you think doesn’t have problems” + health issues, you’ll get a list of the problems that breed is prone to.
This is just more Reddit trash that people love to bitch about and I shouldn’t be surprised to see it here, just disappointed.
I’m not against breed changes to improve health at all but the hurr durr I-just-learned-the-word-brachycephalic-and-now-I’m-gonna-act-like-I-invented-it shit needs to die in a fire.
Let’s make all dogs live longer and healthier lives without shitting on any of them.
glad it got put out of its misery, just a shame it took that long. poor thing
German wolf hounds (large dogs, full snouts, etc.) live maybe 8 years total.
You’re singling out a single obscure breed of dog for some reason (where I assume you mean “German wirehaired pointing wolfhound”?) and then also making a claim about their life expectancy without presenting any evidence. Not only can I not find something saying eight years, I can’t find any credible information saying anything at all about this specific breed’s lifespan.
My pug dog lived 15 years, died of cancer, and never had trouble breathing during those 15 years.
I’m sorry for your loss, but I’m glad they lived a long time.
- French bulldogs are being discussed here, not pugs. They both suffer from brachycephalic airway syndrome, but French bulldogs are substantially worse (see below).
- Even if your dog were a French bulldog, a single anecdote is not statistically significant data.
- French bulldogs demonstrably have a much shorter life expectancy than most other dog breeds. You can see in the data that pugs aren’t too far behind.
If you google “name of dog breed you think doesn’t have problems” + health issues, you’ll get a list of the problems that breed is prone to.
…Okay? The point is that we know this is a health problem for French bulldogs and pugs; there’s every reason to believe changing their facial anatomy would make things better and seemingly no reason to believe it’d make them worse. This feels like whataboutism.
I’m not against breed changes to improve health at all but the hurr durr I-just-learned-the-word-brachycephalic-and-now-I’m-gonna-act-like-I-invented-it shit needs to die in a fire.
I agree that the modern Internet is too capable of rallying people behind causes they don’t invest the time to understand, but I don’t see anyone underinformed here. We inbred this feature into dogs in the 1900s because it was considered aesthetically desirable. We now recognize this often causes severe medical problems. Changing the facial anatomy should help millions of sentient beings live their lives without said severe medical problems. Becoming aware of a problem and then advocating for a reasonable solution isn’t “acting like [they] invented it”.
Let’s make all dogs live longer and healthier lives without shitting on any of them.
They’re not. The reason French bulldogs were singled out here is because of their exceptionally low lifespans, and I think you’re thinking people who care about this are getting some smug, fart-smelling satisfaction out of this when really they’re just happy to see a glimmer of light in a world that’s falling into darkness.
Retro pugs are already a thing?
I’ll never understand why people even want pugs. They are not cute, they are ugly abominations. Maybe they were cute before people turned them into this.
They used to be very cute and were functional dogs. Altdeutscher mops and retro pugs are good examples. Here’s an 1800s painting of one.
In modern pugs? Indeed, they’ve been selectively bred for brachycephaly (flattened muzzles), and poorly so, resulting in many potential health problems.
