NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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I’m sorry, wasn’t aware.

I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.

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Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.

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Where do Globe & Mail and Toronto Star sit?

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first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis

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Estats Unis

États-Unis, my dude.

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i think they wrote it in catalan, not french

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was the point made?

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this is what you argue about?

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27 points

Finally.

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I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.

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He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it’s defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.

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I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn’t t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.

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Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let’s talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)

But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you’d expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.

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That’s not enough in politics, sadly.

Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.

The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.

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I can’t wait to see who’s going to be their next leader.

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Yeah but he destroyed the NDP party

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While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It’s like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

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That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.

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rarely any actual constructive or original ideas

My mom’s getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.

They need to come up with their own identity

They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.

instead of basing it on the opposite of another.

You confusing the orange with the blue?

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I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

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I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.

There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.

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I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself

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I think he’ll have a great legacy in hindsight. The important policy accomplishments of the NDP while he was leader will hopefully last for generations.

For comparison, what policy accomplishments have the official opposition had in the last ten years, and what accomplishments will they have under a Carney government? The CPC has more than 10× the number of seats the NDP does now, but as a party they have had a lost decade in terms of policy impact whereas the NDP has scored big wins.

The NDP will hopefully have a comeback next election. I would guess they will.

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I got to be honest. The NDP are like some anime hero in this election sacrificing it all so the main protagonist can beat the villian

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-Mass immigration and loosening regulation so temporary students can work 40 hours a week when we finally had wage pressure, as people asked for simple cost of living adjustments after massive asset price inflation and corporate revenue.

-Allowing unions to be forced back to work, eliminating all bargaining for wages.

-Ignoring the cost of living increases from QE and unfunded stimulus, by not taxing the rich a dime to pay for any of it.

Am I wrong in any of this, I’d love a carefully thought out retort that isn’t Cons bad.

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I don’t know if I’ll say you’re wrong but I will say that that feels like half a comment and you might have forgotten to add the part where you weave it all together. Or make it relate to the previous comments.

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The NDP started as a merger of labor party, saying they are a hero after a decade of abandoning labor seems silly to me. Thats how it ties together.

The NDP who brought us universal healthcare actually fully funded everything via taxes, the current incarnation of the NDP didnt fund a single program they created, meaning it is funded with future austerity with interest and inflation.

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Wow NDP is getting closer to the Liberals, might as well vote Liberal.

Why do they keep shifting center?!!?

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