Makes me feel a lot bettter about losing high quality men such as Jagmeet Singh and Jonathan Pedneault!
Oh no, did Jagmeet lose his seat too? I’m a liberal but Jagmeet is a good guy, didn’t deserve that.
He did, and he’s stepping down as party leader. Personally, I think it’s a good thing. His leadership has been far too soft and cuddly. The NDP need a leader who will channel the anger a lot of Canadians are feeling at watching their quality of life get sold off to oligarchs.
I’m just spit-balling here, but is it totally off the table to dig up Jack Layton and elect him in some kind of “Weekend at Bernie’s” type shenanigan?
I really like Singh. He is a GOOD man. A GOOD leader. I want to be at a party with him in the room. But I agree, he wasn’t the factor in his fate. The centre left sacrificed the NDP for the libs because of the US. Strategic voting worked. If they hadn’t this would have been a conservative win. It’s acceptable because the alternative is disastrous.
Singh’s cuddlyness was probably trying to follow Le Bon Jacque’s lead. Fluffy warm and cuddly via Layton got the NDP some big successes and bigger hopes until tragedy struck.
I’m more worried about the next election. A minority in a time of great struggle won’t go full term. I give this around 3 years. The libs can’t win the next, no one goes 5 terms in a row.
Lets assume the Cons take the next, and the NDP get a bounceback from extreme liberal fatigue. Does the NDP need Hope or Anger? I’m not sure, but we saw a lot of rural areas be two way con/ndp. These areas would probably respond to channeled anger. Flip a few blue to Orange.
Can’t agree! Muclair and Singh moved so far to center they destroyed the party. Not just my words, the party removed all reference to socialism from the party constitution.
It was a strategy that made a half-assed amount of sense during the years where the Liberals were struggling. Canadians (particularly Ontario) seems to like their politics roughly center. So if you want to supplant the Liberals as the main party representing the Left, you can’t be too far left. Same thing happens to the Conservatives. Every time they drift too far right to appease the Alberta crowd, they start losing the Ontario suburbs.
Plus, “socialism” is still a bad word for most of the older population. You can get rid of the word, change none of the policies, and that will be enough to keep the “socialism bad” crowd happy.
I know nothing about canadian politics, but Fanjoy looks like he is having a lot of fun and joy. 😺
To give a bit of context. The person in second, Pierre Poilievre, is the leader of the Conservative party and campaigned for Prime Minister of Canada. Canadians don’t vote directly for Prime Minister. The country is divided into a few hundred ridings and each riding gets to elect a Member of Parliament. The party with the most MPs gets to form government, and their leader becomes the Prime Minister.
Not only has Poilievre failed to win enough seats for the Conservative party to form government, he might not even win his own seat. A seat he has held for 20 years. It would be embarrassing for him and hilarious for all the Canadians that think he’s a dickhead.
Thanks for clarification!
not even win his own seat
As in he won’t be elected as a member of parliament because not enough people voted for him in his region?
Correct, but it’s not uncommon for party leaders to evict someone else from their party who did win in order to have a seat
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Hopefully PP is done now. Sounds like its up to the party if he is still the leader? Without a seat that’s going to be hard, isn’t it?
It will be hard due to internal Conservative party politics, but there’s nothing saying that the party leader has to have a seat in parliament. That’s how Carney was prime minister without having a seat.
Hey I have a question - I heard that there was a sort of protest in your riding to protest FPTP and so a whole whackload of independents had registered (close to 90?). Did that cause a lot of confusion at the ballot? Were the physical ballots like massive?
Just curious, as I thought it was a really great (and funny) way to protest tbh, but wondering how much of a headache it caused for the typical voter.
