Update: Welp, late today this passed the House overwhelmingly, 409-2. The only two nay vote were from Republicans Thomas Massie and Eric Burlison.
Hey yeah can anyone fucking explain to me why AOC and Rashida Tlaib voted yes on this dogshit?
The worst bills in Congress are usually overwhelmingly supported by both parties.
The thing is, AOC herself spoke out against this bill according to this article. And I really, really want her to explain this one, as much as I do not expect that she will.
I don’t know how in the world I’m expected to have any faith whatsoever in our governance at any level when even our ostensibly most progressive voices aren’t willing to block blatant garbage like this.
I’m confident leadership whipped the votes hard on this one, probably as a futile show of unity. That’s where the blame lies.
It would indeed be nice to see a few democrats resisting attacks on the constitution and such but in the house a small number of voices cannot block legislation like in the senate.
I would also like to hear an explanation from AOC just to understand the politics of not acting as the singular democratic “no” vote here. But I’m not going to hold her to task given the obvious failure of leadership.
i lost my faith in our governance while deployed in iraq. nothing i’ve seen since has done anything to restore it. dunno how, but something has to change
How did this pass 409-2?!
Unfortunately this law is unconstitutional as ever. This is nothing more than a scare tactic; as it should not survive a true challenge in the SCOTUS. If it does survive such a challenge; burn them all, congress and all.
I don’t understand why they keep saying “the Trump admin is doing this”, “the Trump admin is doing that”, and so on. It isn’t the Trump admin: it’s the majority of USA citizens that’s doing this and that. They voted it. They’re the first responsible and guilty. Each and every single person in that majority.
I said most of what I wanted to say in this comment, but I’d like to take an extra moment here to point out that you are currently making excuses for fascists.
Putting it bluntly, I don’t give a flying fuck how many people voted for Trump – which wasn’t the majority, by the way, since not everyone votes – there is no amount of votes that makes “doing fascism” okay. Trump is not a force of nature. He does not get absolved of blame. This rests on his shoulders more than anyone.
which wasn’t the majority, by the way, since not everyone votes
Um, even among the people who cast a vote for President in 2024, Trump didn’t get a majority of the votes. He got fewer than half of the Presidential votes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
I’m aware. My point was that this wasn’t a majority even besides that. Not sure why you seem to be phrasing this as a counterpoint, though, given that it reinforces my comment?
Don’t look at me. I voted for the Green party. The Dems and GOP are a single party masquerading as two as far as I’m concerned. The Corporatist Party.
I voted for Jill Stein in 2012. Then I realized she’s just as much of a grifter as the others. Also why was she at a dinner with Putin and Mike Flynn?
she was an invited guest who paid her own way to celebrate one of the new media outlets that would let her get her message out. she didn’t make the seating chart.
I’m so sick and tired of this gleeful throw-people-under-the-bus attitude that effectively dehumanizes people because they “voted wrong,” as if there aren’t millions of people among Trump’s voterbase who were effectively tricked by an entire network of con-men and grifters. As if there isn’t a giant oil-baron-funded media machine working tirelessly to convince people of a smorgasbord of lies.
I find it disgusting how easily you and others with similar takes will cheer on the suffering of your fellows. And let the Republican Party off scot-free in the process. Because apparently blaming a bunch of people who – let’s be real – by-and-large don’t pay attention to politics is apparently more important than blaming the people who’re deliberately engineering mass suffering. Not to mention how you’re currently partaking in schadenfreude over a problem that’s affecting many people you ostensibly agree with and care about! Everybody in America has to deal with the consequences of this bill!
Nobody in the U.S. voted for censorship or for fascism, save an extraordinarily scant few terrible, terrible people. If you decide that vast swathes of people “deserve this” all because of that few, I don’t think you ever actually wanted to help anyone so much as you wanted an excuse not to have to care.
I tried the “have empathy” approach in 2016. It doesn’t work.
This is the part where I would blame the Democratic Party for failing to provide a better road map for future. They were captured by neoliberals in Wall Street, in tech industry, etc. Of course, the Democrats are still miles better than whatever Trump is proposing.
For the average person, algorithm dependency in news consumption is increasingly becoming an issue with no effective ways to combat the problem. Google, Facebook, Musk controlled major platforms and they also have the money to influence real world politics.
